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Old 12-02-2011, 05:20 PM   #16
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Do you guys buy cheap paint or pay the extra for quality paint?


I paid $8 a gallon for Walmart paint and covered my decent sized bedroom with two coats for $16 in a few hours. Yes, it was cheaper. ; )

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Old 12-02-2011, 05:57 PM   #17
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So how did it go?
it went good chrisn,it was the premium stuff. paint and primer in one in a deep base ,i rolled on first coat and i had to keep telling my self don't worry its a deep base .let dry for about 3 hours with a fan on. put 2 coat and perfect.its not going to get me off my super paint ,but yea i cant say anything bad ,well maybe one thing the clerk sad to let it dry 12 hours between coats
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:08 PM   #18
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Is cheap paint really cheap? Maybe you buy $15 per gallon paint at WallyWorld & because it doesn't cover well you have to do 3 or 4 coats on your living room walls & you end up buying 4 gallons. Say you go to SW and get some SuperPaint, you luck out and it's 40% off, it covers nicely in 2 coats & you only had to buy 2 gallons @ $25 per gallon on sale. Let's say you did the work yourself........your time is valuable and instead of one day, your project takes 2 or 3 days with the cheap paint. With the SuperPaint, you're done in a day. Now, I submit to you, which paint is REALLY the cheaper paint?
Gymschu, that's working smart. Labor is always you largest cost. I worked for a guy years ago who was very penny wise pound foolish, literally. Two, three, four guys would stand around the shop in the morning waiting for oil enamel to strain through the paper cone filters for each guys' cut pot. Three 15-20 dollar guys standing around for ten fifteen minutes. I ask, "why don't you use bag strainers"? Because they cost a buck, as opposed to cone filters which cost about .15c. So two three four men, at 15-20$ an hour stand around wasting labor to save .85 cents. I couldn't make him see the error of his math. Then, at the end of the day, we all go back to the shop and wipe our dirty pots back into the clean can of enamel, necessitating cleaning the once clean but now dirty paint, through a paper cone, while, well, you know that story. I said, "Why do you do that"? Because that's where it goes. I said, "Why doesn't everyone wipe their pot into mine and we'll set this aside till it gets full or the clean stuff is gone. Then we'll strain the whole full pot at once and we'll each pour off clean stuff each morning, and start the cycle over. Nah, couldn't sell him on that either. So, each morning we go into the shop. . .. Almost developing a little Alice's Restaurant tempo there. Honest to God true story.
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I always use the good stuff----I hate the price --but the results make it the cheapest way to go--

If cheap paint was any good --why wouldn't the pros use it?
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[quote=oh'mike;784474]I always use the good stuff----I hate the price --but the results make it the cheapest way to go--

If cheap paint was any good --why wouldn't the pros use it?[/quote]

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I'm not sure how to feel about this.

Based on the praise it get here, I used Benjamin Moore for my first paint project in my house, and had a real tough time with it. I thought maybe the problem was me, so my father gave it a go with the same less-than-stellar results. It's worth noting that he has used the 'dreaded' Behr on numerous occasions with great results. I finally got it right, and the room looks great, but perhaps there's just too many unique factors (prep, primer, the person applying it, etc) that can affect the end result to say Brand A is superior to Brand B for an individual and their needs.

Yes, I know that if someone improperly applies paint, it's not the fault of the paint. However, it seems that some brands are more user friendly (for lack of a better term) than others, and in my admittedly limited experience, it's not necessarily the more expensive brands.
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Jay- it's true when some of us who do this for a living compare paints- we "feel" the differences right away.
And I often tweek a paint- maybe add a splash of water or something- to make it handle better. That also comes from experience. The new Regs on paint cause all mfgs to change formulation to meet those regs, and it does make app harder sometimes.
It is hard for a DIY who very seldom paints to get this .
And the other thing about it is not just how it applies, but how it performs on the wall. Some paints are dirt sponges, some the sheen is uneven, don't really wash when they say they do etc.
Lots of elements go into a good paint.
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I'm not sure how to feel about this.

Based on the praise it get here, I used Benjamin Moore for my first paint project in my house, and had a real tough time with it. I thought maybe the problem was me, so my father gave it a go with the same less-than-stellar results. It's worth noting that he has used the 'dreaded' Behr on numerous occasions with great results. I finally got it right, and the room looks great, but perhaps there's just too many unique factors (prep, primer, the person applying it, etc) that can affect the end result to say Brand A is superior to Brand B for an individual and their needs.

Yes, I know that if someone improperly applies paint, it's not the fault of the paint. However, it seems that some brands are more user friendly (for lack of a better term) than others, and in my admittedly limited experience, it's not necessarily the more expensive brands.

Jay, my SW paintstore mgr. always says, "A true professional can make any paint look good." That is usually true because a pro knows some tricks and inside info that is sometimes needed to make even a poor/cheap paint perform well.

To be honest, I have had customers swear by Wal-mart paint & I have applied it with decent results. Many customers like Valspar, ditto. I have also used Duration Interior and pulled my hair out because I had to apply 3 coats to get proper coverage, so, you have a valid point. I guess at the end of the day, I like the consistency of the paint at the paintstore. My paint of choice is SuperPaint at SW. I know how it works, how to apply it, & day after day, it's truly "super" paint. I haven't been able to find that consistency in a cheaper line of paint at any of the boxstores.
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I always use the good stuff----I hate the price --but the results make it the cheapest way to go--

If cheap paint was any good --why wouldn't the pros use it?
This is, honestly, an apples-to-oranges comparison. It depends largely on whether you're paying for labor, or doing it yourself.
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I personally think it's worth it to pay the extra. Every time I've bought paint from walmart I've regretted it. It takes forever to dry because you have to apply so many coats, and I've even had some of it peel off before!

What do you guys think?
It depends partly on what you're doing.

Repainting interior walls - where there are no problems or issues - is relatively easy and can be done usually be done well with cheaper paint.

Exterior painting is a different story.
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Jay, my SW paint store mgr. always says, "A true professional can make any paint look good." That is usually true because a pro knows some tricks and inside info that is sometimes needed to make even a poor/cheap paint perform well.

To be honest, I have had customers swear by Walmart paint & I have applied it with decent results. Many customers like Valspar, ditto. I have also used Duration Interior and pulled my hair out because I had to apply 3 coats to get proper coverage, so, you have a valid point. I guess at the end of the day, I like the consistency of the paint at the paint store. My paint of choice is Super Paint at SW. I know how it works, how to apply it, & day after day, it's truly "super" paint. I haven't been able to find that consistency in a cheaper line of paint at any of the boxstores.
you know what i'm not saying its the best but for day in and day out its the work horse .personally i cant see using duration home $ i mean my clients wouldn't know the difference or care .for price and quality you cant beat superpaint
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There is more to how a paint works than just application.
Some cheap paints don't hold up well, have any wash etc.
Some are fair.
Not all cheap paints are born equal!
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There is more to how a paint works than just application.
Some cheap paints don't hold up well, have any wash etc.
Some are fair.
Not all cheap paints are born equal!
Well stated Brushjockey. Many of my customers like to use Valspar paints from Lowe's. Yes, it covers well and looks good, but, my oh my does it burnish when something rubs against it. Those chalky white streaks look awful, especially on dark walls. I find that if I warn them ahead of time I at least can ward off the complaints that almost always come a few months later. Now, on the flipside, in my own home, my SuperPainted walls with Proclassic on the trim looks as good today as it did 8 years ago. A little dirty, a few marks here and there, but, I think I will get another 2 or 3 years out of it.
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Has anyone tried ProClassic Interior Waterbased Acrylic-Alkyd yet? Does it flow on like oil?
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I did a side by side comparison with BM's Advance.
Advance won the handling test- but both worked more like the waterborne part than the oil part.
Both finishes are nice when dry.

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