Forums | Home Repair | Home Improvement | Painting | Interior Decorating | Remodeling | Landscaping


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Painting

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12-28-2012, 04:45 AM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 11
Share |
Default

Deep colors dont cover very well, why?


Why dont darker colors cover very well, they told me I should use gray primer to help. I would think darker colors cover better, what gives?
roeldred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 06:57 AM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 24,468
Default

Deep colors dont cover very well, why?


Just not going to happen without a tinted primer. Except it and move on to the next job.
I've seen customers on there 7th coat of paint when trying to do this without the tinted primer I had not only suggested but had bought for them and had on site.
http://www.house-painting-info.com/tinted-primer.html
joecaption is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 07:12 AM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cape May, NJ
Posts: 2,392
Default

Deep colors dont cover very well, why?


It does seem counterintuitive, doesn't it Red? I've had a few difficult times over the years trying to explain to customers why it might take four or five coats of a dark color. I've also been pressing the paint cos to put an explanation in writing for just that educational purpose.

Some colors may require as much as 16 oz's of tint, and that's a lot when you consider that a few drops of red could simulate a crime scene. In order to fit that much in a can they must remove other things, and one of those things is white titanium dioxide. What is removed is what gives the paint "hide", tint does not give hide. Some deeper bases are called clear bases, and have no color at all. That's it basically.

As to gray primer, I don't believe that works, at least not in my experience. I did a front door in a deep cranberry color. The paint store gave me a gray primer calculated by the computer for my finish color. Well, after four coats of finish on top of the gray I called it done. A fifth coat would have given me the depth of color I wanted. That experience was not an isolated incident either.

I use Ben Moore anymore, almost exclusively. Because of their new technology their dark colors almost always cover in two, even over white. That's what they claim, and it's proven to be the case.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
jsheridan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 08:40 AM   #4
Member
 
cdaniels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: eastern NC
Posts: 377
Default

Deep colors dont cover very well, why?


I have used some shades of red that would damn near cover white in one coat and some that would barely cover it in 5 coats. I use tinted primers over light colors because it does help with some brighter reds.Always buy a premium paint.
cdaniels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 08:45 AM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: outside ocala fl
Posts: 2,833
Default

Deep colors dont cover very well, why?


JS I have found instead of tinting the primer gray for these colors I just buy glidden "gripper" i think its called. Its already gray, this has worked pretty well for me. When just tinted I ran into the problems you had. I have not tried the BM deep colors yet.
ToolSeeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 09:00 AM   #6
Rubbin walls since'79
 
Brushjockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Mn
Posts: 2,518
Default

Deep colors dont cover very well, why?


When I see red, I buy Aura. Problem solved.
__________________
"It's better to come here with questions before you screw up than to come here after and ask how to fix them."- JS
Brushjockey is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Brushjockey For This Useful Post:
chrisn (12-28-2012), jsheridan (12-28-2012)
Old 02-08-2013, 01:20 PM   #7
Member
 
Grants Painting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 68
Default

Deep colors dont cover very well, why?


Go with a lightly tinted primer. Or a good acrylic primer.

I hate to (shamelessly) plug another article of mine but... It is what you need to know
Grants Painting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2013, 01:43 PM   #8
Rubbin walls since'79
 
Brushjockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Mn
Posts: 2,518
Default

Deep colors dont cover very well, why?


GP- you do realize you are answering posts that are a month or more old, right? probably the OP is long done and gone..
__________________
"It's better to come here with questions before you screw up than to come here after and ask how to fix them."- JS
Brushjockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Patio Cover or not? greentrees Building & Construction 6 01-21-2014 09:31 PM
HELP for simple patio and patio cover 1st time crzysprstr Building & Construction 8 05-29-2012 10:00 PM
removing wall vent cover help numpty HVAC 4 05-03-2012 07:00 AM
Okay to cover live wired recessed housing with cabinet? Jungle Jim Electrical 2 12-07-2011 04:10 PM
Cover for artesian well? bw77 Plumbing 6 11-28-2011 06:06 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.