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Old 08-31-2012, 11:02 AM   #1
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Deckscapes stain, oil or waterborne?


SW is having a promotion sale for paint and stain, would like to take this advantage to stain my deck and fence.
Undecide between oil or waterborne formula in semi-transparent.
Locate in Ontario, Canada.
What would you recommend?

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GO WITH OIL!!!!!

Must be divine intervention that I logged on today at lunch so that I may save you from the problem I encoutered with S.W. water based sealer/ stain.

Let me explain:

Brother in law and I put a nice new big deck on my house, I let it season in the hot sun for probably 45 days in the hot sun last July/ Aug to dry out the pressure treated chemicals... then pressure washed it and lightly sanded it to remove any residual weathering and ink labels on the wood- beautiful (and backbreaking).

Washed it off again then went to S.W. to take advantage of the sale, guy recommended WATER BASED semi-transparent with no tint added (basically a thicker sealer without color added)... and MAN did it go on nice and look great- for a few weeks. Then it started turning blotchy gray in areas, then more, then more... now it looks like someone took 80 ash-trays, added water, mixed it all up, and splattered it all over the deck.

I'll be redoing it soon... deck cleaner, pressure wash, sand, reseal with oil based...

GO with OIL!!!
Pics, it's twice as bad now, worse actually, so much worse:





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Kind of looks like there was still moisture in the wood after PW.
How long did you let it dry before coating?
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It had just rained in the pic.

I let it dry for about 45 days, most of the very sunny July and August last year.
Seemed dry to me and the gaps opened up etc... who knows.

I want the wood compatible, penetrating aspects of an oil based product. On a flat wood surface that gets beaten by the sun and weather?... give me oil based from now on.
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Ok- You said you let it age 45 days THEN pw'd.
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Sorry to hijack your thread Quincy.

Brushjockey- the timeline was I let it dry out for 45 or so days, powerwashed the heck out of it, next couple days I sanded with a random orbit and a dozen or so sheets of sandpaper, then powerwashed it again just lightly to rinse it off good, not close with lots of force... let it dry out a couple of days, then applied the sealer.

Again, no matter what the reason mine failed, I'm going with oil based next time.
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Any more experience with these products to share with me?
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Here's an updated pic... a year out roughly... makes me ill. Go with oil...


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John, looks like it was too thick when applied and that is reason for the milky look. May have been able to remove the milky with mineral spirits at the time.
Hate to bring it up but you will have to strip it off before you coat with another product. If possible look at Armstrong Clark or Ready Seal. Both are oil based.


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