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Old 03-29-2014, 09:24 AM   #16
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In your description, I don't see a primer between removing the popcorn and applying knockdown.

Did you do wet removal?

What type of mud mix for the texture?

If the texture is softening under paint, I would look for a problem there. Maybe something on the surface, or the condition of the mud mix prevented it from hardening properly.

Examine the texture, see how hard it is and how well its stuck.
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There are many reasons why this could be happening. I'm leaning towards a surface issue as jmayspaint had touched on. A problem be it trapped moisture or previous paint failure, not priming, plaster chalking under latex primer or whatever. At this point who cares. How are you going to get stuff to stick to that surface, and how far are you willing/want to go.?

If it were me, and I choose to repair as opposed to replacing . I'd be looking to get rid of the cracking, chipping areas completely. Get to the point of a dry, clean and dust free surface. Apply your favorite problem solver primer to the surface. Mine tends to be Cover Stain (rolling). Then continue with texture and finish coats (airless if possible)
Sorry guys you need to read the whole post
wet removal vinegar and water
the texture was USG wall and ceiling texture
no the texture is not softening
was not previous painted
was not primed between popcorn and knockdown

I can see where vinegar could cause a problem as it is very acidic and should have been neutralized very well before texture. It may have been dry but the moisture from the texture reactivated it. This could cause the primer failure and in turn the paint failure.

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Old 03-29-2014, 09:51 AM   #17
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Sorry guys you need to read the whole post
wet removal vinegar and water
the texture was USG wall and ceiling texture
no the texture is not softening
was not previous painted
was not primed between popcorn and knockdown

I can see where vinegar could cause a problem as it is very acidic and should have been neutralized very well before texture. It may have been dry but the moisture from the texture reactivated it. This could cause the primer failure and in turn the paint failure.
I would vote either this being the problem, or the texture not completely dry. I'm thinking problem areas will have to be removed, primed, and re-textured.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:05 AM   #18
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Great feedback. Thanks again.
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Old 03-30-2014, 10:19 AM   #19
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I went to sherwin Williams and picked up their pro-block oil based primer. I applied some to an area of ceiling with only the knockdown texture and after a day noticed no cracks. I also switched to a roller with a 3/4 nap. Hopefully these changes solve the problem of how to put up a ceiling that doesn't crack.

What do you guys recommend I do to the ceilings that already have cracks in them? I basically have two choices, either scrape those rooms down to the drywall and start from scratch with the right equipment, or repair the cracked/chipped areas.

There are some areas that only have a few tiny cracks (only visible when standing on a chair and shining a mag light at it). Is it possible to sand these spots and then just paint over them? Or should these areas be scraped, primed, retextured, primed, then repainted?
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Old 03-30-2014, 10:33 AM   #20
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I am thinking you got a bad batch of primer or something was in your texture mix causing the paint to not stick. Kilz 2 certainly isn't the greatest, in fact a lot of people around here hate it, but it shouldn't be peeling like that.
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Still think it was the vinegar. What was the idea behind using it?
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My ref read about it on a DIY blog. Probably the last time we take home improvement advice from some blog.
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:36 AM   #23
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Really can't see the purpose, fabric softener yes, it let's the water soak in a little better.

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