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06-20-2007, 09:53 AM
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Thanks. I'll let you know how it goes.
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06-23-2007, 03:21 AM
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Location: Illinois (kankakee county)
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Originally Posted by firsthomegal
I was just about to go to Home Depot and buy 10 gallons of Behr exterior paint. Although I have a lot of prep work to do on the exterior before painting, Home Depot has a sale on Behr which expires tomorrow. Fortunately, I decided to do some research.....and came across this thread.
I had my front porch screened in last fall and painted the new construction with Behr paints. It was fairly cool, at the low end of the recommended painting temperature, while I was working on the porch. Being completely inexperienced with painting, I thought the thick, gooeyness of the paint was because of the temperature. I used a tinted primer and still needed two coats (I chose a fairly dark color). It was all trim work and took forever.
(Now I am concerned about the color fading. The porch is on the north and doesn't get a lot of light, but the west side gets pretty baked in the afternoon.)
Do folks also recommend Benjamin Moore and Sherwin Williams as best EXTERIOR paints?
THANK YOU for saving me from messing up my big paint job! It's going to take me a long time to paint my house, and I would have wept serious tears if I had found this out AFTER I painted.
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I like oil base on a exterior. To answer your question i consider this company to make the best oilbase exterior paint and also excellent water base exterior paints.
http://www.oldecenturycolors.com/oilbase.htm
Its not cheap like 45 a gallon.
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08-04-2007, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by athanman
I have been doing a lot of painting recently and in doing so I used a lot of Behr brand paints.
At this point I am interested in the experiences other people have had in using this brand of paints.
So if you have any reviews please share them.
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Behr is the most labor intensive paint on the market. I personally & professionally prefer Valspar featured at Lowe's, it's equal in color clairity and far more user friendly.
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08-10-2007, 12:41 AM
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I have had many years of experience with many different brands of paint. From SW, Ben Moore, Dunn-Edwards, etc. You could buy the most expensive brand of paint, but if you are going to use cheap roller covers and brushes, you should just give up while you still ahead.
Always spend the extra dollar on Purdy brushes and sheepskin roller covers. If you take care of them, they will last you a long time.
With regards to paint, use what you are comfortable with. I love Glidden paint out of Home Depot, but better yet, Ralph Lauren paint. Even in colors that I would not think would cover in one coat in RL, did. . . (though 2 thin coats are always better than one thick coat). RL has a GREAT color pallet and levels out really nice on the walls. Another added benefit is they have a primer (RL Deeptone Primer) that can be tinted to any color from any company. So if you plan on doing a accent wall, make a trip to The Home Depot and pick up a gallon. One of the reps for the company turned me on to it and no other company in the industry makes a primer like this. It will give you that red accent wall with one coat primer and one coat of paint!!!! WOW, I was blown away. I did 7 coats the last time I painted a red. RL paint is the was to go.
The RL rep showed me some test results from lab in Florida (Marshall Labs) and it beat out SW duration, Ben Moore, and a bunch of other at $40-$50 a gallon and it only cost me $27!!!!!! Great stuff.
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08-10-2007, 12:46 AM
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Oh, I forgot, Behr paint stinks. It is tooooooo thick, has to high of an odor in the higher sheens, donesn't touch up for crap, because it is so thick it doesn't flow and level out, it blocks when I spray new doors. I wouldn't recommend it to any one. I would buy Glidden's top of the time for $3 to $4 bucks cheaper any day of the week. The whole Consumer reports thing is a hoax if you ask me.
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08-10-2007, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by zorro84
I have had many years of experience with many different brands of paint. From SW, Ben Moore, Dunn-Edwards, etc. You could buy the most expensive brand of paint, but if you are going to use cheap roller covers and brushes, you should just give up while you still ahead.
Always spend the extra dollar on Purdy brushes and sheepskin roller covers. If you take care of them, they will last you a long time.
With regards to paint, use what you are comfortable with. I love Glidden paint out of Home Depot, but better yet, Ralph Lauren paint. Even in colors that I would not think would cover in one coat in RL, did. . . (though 2 thin coats are always better than one thick coat). RL has a GREAT color pallet and levels out really nice on the walls. Another added benefit is they have a primer (RL Deeptone Primer) that can be tinted to any color from any company. So if you plan on doing a accent wall, make a trip to The Home Depot and pick up a gallon. One of the reps for the company turned me on to it and no other company in the industry makes a primer like this. It will give you that red accent wall with one coat primer and one coat of paint!!!! WOW, I was blown away. I did 7 coats the last time I painted a red. RL paint is the was to go.
The RL rep showed me some test results from lab in Florida (Marshall Labs) and it beat out SW duration, Ben Moore, and a bunch of other at $40-$50 a gallon and it only cost me $27!!!!!! Great stuff.
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No kidding? I've had the exact opposite opinion of Ralph Lauren paints.
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08-10-2007, 08:52 AM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vegas Baby!
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Originally Posted by zorro84
I have had many years of experience with many different brands of paint. From SW, Ben Moore, Dunn-Edwards, etc. You could buy the most expensive brand of paint, but if you are going to use cheap roller covers and brushes, you should just give up while you still ahead.
Always spend the extra dollar on Purdy brushes and sheepskin roller covers. If you take care of them, they will last you a long time.
With regards to paint, use what you are comfortable with. I love Glidden paint out of Home Depot, but better yet, Ralph Lauren paint. Even in colors that I would not think would cover in one coat in RL, did. . . (though 2 thin coats are always better than one thick coat). RL has a GREAT color pallet and levels out really nice on the walls. Another added benefit is they have a primer (RL Deeptone Primer) that can be tinted to any color from any company. So if you plan on doing a accent wall, make a trip to The Home Depot and pick up a gallon. One of the reps for the company turned me on to it and no other company in the industry makes a primer like this. It will give you that red accent wall with one coat primer and one coat of paint!!!! WOW, I was blown away. I did 7 coats the last time I painted a red. RL paint is the was to go.
The RL rep showed me some test results from lab in Florida (Marshall Labs) and it beat out SW duration, Ben Moore, and a bunch of other at $40-$50 a gallon and it only cost me $27!!!!!! Great stuff.
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I've used Behr once. I was truly not happy with its ability to coat. Since then I switched to RL when possible.
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08-11-2007, 12:04 AM
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I'd just like to chime in here that I agree, Behr has been a disappointment. I did my entire interior of my last house using Behr, sans ONE room that my wife wanted in a particular shade of gray. She bought MAB paint for that (local company, maybe, to Phila area.) Anyways, the coverage of that paint just simply blew me away.
Since then I've steered away from Behr except for their whites (trim, ceiling). I recently redid my kitchen which had semi-gloss walls. I used a gray Glidden primer, followed by 1 (yes 1) coat of gray, very similar in color, satin latex made by Sherwin Williams. I was very impressed. My lesson is hereby learned: spend thy money on good paint. The results are worth it and the experience is far more enjoyable.
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08-11-2007, 12:05 AM
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Oh, one other thing...Behr stains were even worse. Waste of time and money redoing my deck on the last house. I was so let down 1 year after all that work, I swear to never own a deck again. I'm all for the paved patio now.
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08-13-2007, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cambie
No kidding? I've had the exact opposite opinion of Ralph Lauren paints.
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When I talk to other people in home depot or the associates, they would say the same thing I do all the time. Most people have no idea how to paint. I would go as far to say that RL paint is "idiot proof" paint. The coverage is some of the best I have used. Even in some of the colors, a bright blue, covered in one coat. Even though I will always put two just for the protection and washability of the paint. For only $25 to $30 a gallon, it is WELL worth the money spend. On that note, when a customer goes into a Sherwin Williams store and buys a gallon of paint, Duration for $48 to $50+ (SW's top-of-the-line), you can bet that a contractor is only maybe paying $30-$32 a gallon if that. When the Glidden Rep showed me all the test results for RL paint and it smoked SW Duration, I was sold. Next time, give RL and Glidden Evermore a try when your in Depot. I think both you and your pocketbook would like it. Behr just doesn't do it for me. I believe that it is over priced for how it performs. If you can catch a rep in the store as I did (they are usually in red shirts), ask as many questions as possible. He or she would probably say the same thing about Behr as I am.
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08-13-2007, 01:19 AM
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Most exterior stains will have to be recoated year after year, especially if you are in a harsh climate. You might want to look at Lowe's Olympic brand for stains and sealers. I heard they are o.k. For that matter, just buy that fake wood for the deck next time. lol! Good luck on the deck, I have the same headaches in Colorado.
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08-13-2007, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by donb1959
I cant think of one good quality BHer has
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I haven't had one issue with the 1 part Epoxy paint in my Garage.............
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08-13-2007, 02:42 PM
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I went to SW today to purchase exterior primer and paint for my trim and fascia. I told them to give me a really good alkyd primer and latex paint. They gave me the PrepRite alkyd primer and the A100 exterior latex paint. Are these good products? I did get the Purdy 2.5" angled brush you guys have been raving about.
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08-31-2007, 09:57 AM
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Love Painting
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[quote=MasterStrokes;5507]Honestly I’ve had problems with Behr every time I’ve used it. It’s difficult to apply uniformly. You have to push the paint across the surface because it’s too thick. It dries too fast and leaves paint build up spots where the roller overlaps with the cut in. It dries flashy leaving dull and shiny spots when looking down the length of a wall. It smells like ammonia. I’ve seen the junk sag when applied heavily. It has virtually zero leveling power on horizontal surfaces.
When you have had the problems with the Behr paint drying quickly how did you work around that problem?
Currently I am helping my Aunt and she prefers Satin Enamel and I am getting impatient because by the time I cut and roll there is that run and if I roll first and try to cut - even when I do just a small section then the paint dries enough that there is a clear demarcation between the rolled section and the cut section.
If there is a good way to do that - when you already have the paint, I would appreciate it. I have worked with many different paints - Color Wheel, Porter,American Tradition, different brands of Semi Gloss but never worked with Satin Enamel before and don't think I will ever do so again unless this paint can make me feel good about the finished product. I believe in perfectly good job
Thanks much in advance
Last edited by StrokeOn; 08-31-2007 at 05:03 PM.
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08-31-2007, 01:11 PM
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Member
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Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I have skimmed thru the 89 posts above and did not see the following mentioned.
Word to the wise. Check the coverage SF on the paint can label at your Big Box stores (even the name brands). Most will advise 300SF/gal.
Box stores have the makers reformulate paint. Trade on the makers good name and give you less of a product.
Check out SW & BM stores (400SF/gal)
Thats 25 % more paint to buy to get the same coverage. Do the Math.
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