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Old 07-07-2006, 11:04 PM   #31
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Which ones and why?

I used Promar 200 found it to be very weak in the coverage department. The windows in my house had condensation all over them from all of the water in the paint. Granted, it's not their top-of-the-line, but still, for the price of that gallon I could have used Behr with better coverage and less cost (and I'll bet less mositure, but that's just a guess).

Also recently used a SW "Classic" or some such name in a semi-gloss enamel (customer bought the paint-I told them to get the SuperPaint) and I could have put four coats on cabinets. I cleaned, degreased, lightly sanded, and primed with Glidden's "Gripper" primer and the stained wood was still streaky. I also didn't like that paint because it set up way too fast-very difficult to work with.

I've since painted cabinets, wainscoting, walls and trim with Behr and had excellent results. I find nothing wrong with it and will continue to use it.

The local hardware store is selling Ben Moore for $35/gallon-I'll bet SW is pretty close to that as well. To me, it's way overpriced for what you get.

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Old 07-08-2006, 07:15 AM   #32
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I used Promar 200 etc...
Thanks for the response Steve
I appreciate hearing from you

As I understand it, those aren't SWP's premium paints
I have used mostly Ben Moore, and have only used the SWP premium lines
BM also has lessor lines which I try not to use
In their case the MooreCraft ("contractor" grade) is not great, but still better than Behr
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The local hardware store is selling Ben Moore for $35/gallon-I'll bet SW is pretty close to that as well. To me, it's way overpriced for what you get.
The premium BM or SWP should run 35-45 a gallon
Overpriced would be relative

For example:
BM's AquaVelvet
I know exactly what it will do, and what it won't do
I know exactly what it will look like, and how it will spread in any/all situations, or what I need to do to it to make it do what I want to do
I know how far I can push it, and when to lay back
I can spread it 20% to 50% faster than inferior products, and it will look better doing so
Often an inferior product can take even more time...and coats, to make it look good
The coverage is never as good on the cheaper products-it always takes more product
As my time is the most expensive part of any project, you may be able to see how a more expensive gallon that saves me time actually costs me, and my customers, less rather than more in the long run

For those that say "Yeah but you're a pro, that's different"
I'd like to say as a DIYer, do not undervalue your most valuable asset, your time
If it's buying 3 $20 gallons and taking all Saturday and Sunday to paint a room, wouldn't it be better to buy one (or even two) $35 gallon(s) and have it done in one day?
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I’m also a perfectionist. I varnish my brush handles. I soap up the heels before dipping them in paint. I clean a brush I’ve owned forever two, or three times a day to give it the respect a good brush deserves.
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Makes me remember a guy I use to work with for a restoration contractor who felt the best way to store his brushes was in a bucket of spirits or water. They looked like a Salvador Dali sculpture when he pulled them out.lol

As far as Behr paints, I have used them on interior jobs, not the best paint but you can make it work just fine. The main reason I don't use behr is because I have to go into home depot and wait behind 20 old ladies who have 500 questions and then hope the nitwit mixing my paint gets my order right. "I want 5 gallons of your best interior acrylic satin product" , " Uh, do you want that in oil or water base".
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:38 PM   #34
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GC with our own painting division:

What we use:

1.) Sherwin Williams
2.) Ben Moore

* Avoid like the plague: Behr. (unless you like painting several extra coats to cover a surface)

- Even our painters hate the brand -

say the brand name in front of them ; You should see the faces they make, like they swallowed a bad oyster.....
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:01 PM   #35
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Behr paint is inferior as evidenced by the visible roller strokes that remained on the 7 doors I painted using Behr paint. The paint's viscosity was very thick and was like rolling on Elmer's glue--this may account for the paint's inability to blend the roller strokes into a final, smooth appearance. The cost of the paint is minor compared to the time and frustration needed to correct the results of the product.

After resanding each of the doors, I repainted the doors using a similar
Benjamin Moore product, and the final result was perfect using just a
single coat.

After buying the Behr paint, I attempted to get a refund from Home Depot, but their policy does not allow refunds on paints even if the product is as substandard.
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During the summer a guy I was working with and I stained a deck with some Behr deck stain. The elderly lady requested it as it was what was first put on it. I don't know how long the stain had been on the deck, but it did not look all that bad, no peeling, cracking, etc, just like some of it had just worn away or been washed away by the elements. Overall was in fairly good shape. We stained with one coat. I thought the stain was very good. Since i have been coming top these forums, I have heard a lot of (mostly) bad reveiws on Behr products.
When we moved back to our house after renting it out for a couple of years, we repainted the lr. This was about two years ago. I had a few small plces to mud. Instead of using primer like I normally would have done, I used the paint as a primer on these places. They never did cover without showing. I also have shiny places where I cut in. Now it may be me, but I have never had this much problem with paint. It actually seemed to cover good as I was using it, but as time goes on it seems it gets worse. It is almost like defects are time delayed. Like I said, Ihave read reveiws on the forums on Behr. A few days ago, I asked my wife what kind of paint it was we used on the lr. She said she did not know, but she had gotten it at HDand it cost about $25. I said, "was it Behr?"

Her response was, " Yeah, thats it." Never agin for this ol' boy! I'll pay the difference. I don't need all that flashing! Maybe I could learn to use it but at whose expense?
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At this point I am interested in the experiences other people have had in using this brand of paints.
I'll let you know by the end of next week, we'll be using it for the first time ever...the customer insisted on it. I felt like putting a bag over my head when I went to the Devil to buy it.

And that stuff ain't cheap, cost me near the same as my discount on premium grade Dunn-Edwards.
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We got our customer's eight doors sprayed today and didn't notice anything "bad" about Behr paint. Cleaned up the same, sprayed the same, looked the same wet or dry...

I dunno........seems ok.

But what I don't get is, with all the great colors on the earth how come so many people pick white. I'm sick of white. I'm gonna start charging more if they want white.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:14 PM   #39
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I used Promar 200 found it to be very weak in the coverage department. The windows in my house had condensation all over them from all of the water in the paint. Granted, it's not their top-of-the-line, but still, for the price of that gallon I could have used Behr with better coverage and less cost (and I'll bet less mositure, but that's just a guess).

Also recently used a SW "Classic" or some such name in a semi-gloss enamel (customer bought the paint-I told them to get the SuperPaint) and I could have put four coats on cabinets. I cleaned, degreased, lightly sanded, and primed with Glidden's "Gripper" primer and the stained wood was still streaky. I also didn't like that paint because it set up way too fast-very difficult to work with.

I've since painted cabinets, wainscoting, walls and trim with Behr and had excellent results. I find nothing wrong with it and will continue to use it.

The local hardware store is selling Ben Moore for $35/gallon-I'll bet SW is pretty close to that as well. To me, it's way overpriced for what you get.

Best,
Steve
The condensation is from the moisture in the paint evaporating near the closed window. That will happen with any paint.
I've used pro mar 200 for many years and it's one of the best for the cost you can get. It covers very well. There is no comparison between 200 and behr. 200 is the same as superpaint without the 25 yr. warranty.
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Honestly I’ve had problems with Behr every time I’ve used it. It’s difficult to apply uniformly. You have to push the paint across the surface because it’s too thick. It dries too fast and leaves paint build up spots where the roller overlaps with the cut in. It dries flashy leaving dull and shiny spots when looking down the length of a wall. It smells like ammonia. I’ve seen the junk sag when applied heavily. It has virtually zero leveling power on horizontal surfaces.
As a consumer, I too got caught up in the Consumer Reports hype and have used Behr for most of my existing home. I totally agree with every comment you've made above. Quite frankly, before reading this thread I thought that most of these problems were user errors. I'm not a professional painter by trade, but I am relieved to see that the problems I experienced weren't entirely my fault.

BTW, Sherwin Williams paints are a lot better IMHO.
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I cant think of one good quality BHer has
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I used Behr paint for the first time a month ago. I had no problems with it whatsoever. There was very minimal fumes, the consistancy was constant( used the same gallon over a week ), there was even coverage and it dried fairly quickly. I plan on using it in the other rooms of my home.
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Coming from a guy that has applied nearly 100 gallons of paint in 2006, I will say that you are better off using the SW ProMar line over the Behr brand. The ProMar 200 is basically the same price as the Behr from HD. It applies easier and can be touched up.

Behr is okay for a HO, but its difficult to apply. YMMV.

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I have to put in a plug for Benjamin Moore's new Aura line-it ROCKS! Silky, excellent cover, overall fantastico. You'll pay a couple extra bucks but it's worth every penny. Their Affinity line also has gorgeous colors. I'll never go back...
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I have been doing a lot of painting recently and in doing so I used a lot of Behr brand paints.

At this point I am interested in the experiences other people have had in using this brand of paints.

So if you have any reviews please share them.
Ditto all the negatives about Behr. It never covered the first time I tried it 20 years ago, and it is obviously no better yet, having used it infrequently when supplied by the homeowner.

We use Benjamin Moore alsmot exclusively, with a little Sherwin Williams from time to time. You will not be disappointed by either.Once you take ten strokes of the roller with a quality paint, you will kick yourself in the butt for having frustrated yourself with other trash.

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