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Old 04-23-2008, 11:59 AM   #151
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Thanks again for the further info. I'm out in the country and the closest Benjamin Moore place is about an hour away. That's a lot of gas money.

I believe there is a Pittsburgh Paint place about 25 minutes away, right near where I attend church every week, so that'll help. I might try them out.

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Old 04-23-2008, 08:31 PM   #152
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i just painted the trim in a bedroom and bath with behr ultra white semi gloss because a customer wanted it. I was dumb enough to oblige. Absolute garbage. The paint does not cover properly. I put 2 thick coats on all the window frames, doors and door frames over a bone white color and it didnt cover. I will never allow a customer to talk me into using their brand of paint. If they want a color from Behr it is getting color matched at Benjamin Moore
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i've never had paint biases before but i do now after i tried using this one. for some reason the coating wont come out even. but when i tried it at the store, it seemed ok. weird.
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:36 AM   #154
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You can see my problem, and BEHR will not reply to my emails to how to fix the problem:
Photos - http://photos.donandmaryanne.com/gal...20301143_qApUL

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Here is a little tip if you for next time. If you have an area that wont cover with one gallon but will need two mix them together. Yea, you shouldn't need to do that but if you are really concerned then this will ensure no difference. Also, make sure you get same lot numbers.
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When they talk about the amount of solids and ti dioxide versus sand and the amount of water in a paint how does Behr standup? Personally Home Depot used to be a good store than they fired the people who knew their trades and hired cheap labor. If I want quick cheap 17.00 a gallon paint I will go to Menards and get PPG Grand Distinction and avoid The Devil. Otherwise I agree go to a paint store and buy their best stuff.
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Personally Home Depot used to be a good store than they fired the people who knew their trades and hired cheap labor.
Amen, to this statement. I shopped in one of the first HD's built. Back then, they hired retired electricians for the electrical department and sheetrockers for that area. Now, there may be one person in the store who knows his/her job.
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Hi, my name is Kim, and I just joined the group today. I must be one of lucky ones. I have never had a problem with Behr paint. In fact, that is the ONLY paint other than Sherwin Williams that I will use. I have had terrible trouble with the Olympic and Valspar brands sold at Lowe's. I guess everybody's experience is different. Has any had a GOOD experience with Lowe's brand??
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Well, I am just a homeowner who has tried several paints and the one that has been the best to date was Behr. Since I haven't tried SW or some other paints I may simply not know that I could do better. Here's my gripes/experience with some paints:

Ralph Lauren paint and primer. I had my contractor use RL in Hunter Red in satin on the bathroom he remodeled. The primer was tinted in the same color, also RL. It went over that green wallboard. Remodeler had to use 4 coats to get the color right. Now, the bathroom walls bleed a sticky substance. It looks like the walls are wet. I clean them but the sticky wet look comes back. I have never seen anything like it. The guys at HD had no clue why this should be happening.

This was in the Fall of 2004. I have stayed away from RL since and hope to repaint the bathroom this Fall. I was considering Behr Bathroom and Kitchen paint because of their NanoTechnology. Now I'm not sure after reading a review here on this line of Behr.

Glidden Evermore with gray Glidden Gripper. Last summer I painted my daughter's room in very deep, bright, matte colors, hence the recommended gray Gripper by HD. Two walls are a dark turquoise, two walls are a deep apple green. The paint is over the Gripper like a very thin glove of latex. It just peels off. Please note that I used two coats of paint over the primer and I read the directions carefully as to how long before I could paint and/or recoat.

I am now repairing a 12 inch x 6 inch area in the plaster wall. I patched and sanded. I could probably peel the whole wall. I am going to use the gripper again only so the colors stay the same. What should I do when I repaint the entire room? Will the primer stick to the thin layer of Glidden Evermore paint which means the new paint (whatever brand it is) will peel? Should I sand the entire room and get the Evermore off the walls (sounds labor intensive)?

Behr matte: I used Martini Olive which is a dark green, two coats over tinted primer. No problems but if I can find another paint that is easier to use and just as good I'm all for it!

I used Behr Ultra which should not need primer on our new 20x20 garage (glorified shed by TuffShed). I used Zinsser primer anyway in white and the Behr in yellow. When I tried going without the primer the yellow was awful instead of mellow so I continued with the Zinsser. Very hard to paint. The walls just sucked up the primer and paint.


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I have had many years of experience with many different brands of paint. From SW, Ben Moore, Dunn-Edwards, etc. You could buy the most expensive brand of paint, but if you are going to use cheap roller covers and brushes, you should just give up while you still ahead.

Always spend the extra dollar on Purdy brushes and sheepskin roller covers. If you take care of them, they will last you a long time.

With regards to paint, use what you are comfortable with. I love Glidden paint out of Home Depot, but better yet, Ralph Lauren paint. Even in colors that I would not think would cover in one coat in RL, did. . . (though 2 thin coats are always better than one thick coat). RL has a GREAT color pallet and levels out really nice on the walls. Another added benefit is they have a primer (RL Deeptone Primer) that can be tinted to any color from any company. So if you plan on doing a accent wall, make a trip to The Home Depot and pick up a gallon. One of the reps for the company turned me on to it and no other company in the industry makes a primer like this. It will give you that red accent wall with one coat primer and one coat of paint!!!! WOW, I was blown away. I did 7 coats the last time I painted a red. RL paint is the was to go.

The RL rep showed me some test results from lab in Florida (Marshall Labs) and it beat out SW duration, Ben Moore, and a bunch of other at $40-$50 a gallon and it only cost me $27!!!!!! Great stuff.
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Greetings all. First time poster here. I was a pro painter for 6 years straight and off and on for another 10 years.My personal preference will always be Benjamin Moore but I have no problem whatsoever with Sherwin Williams. I do however have a problem with Behr. I recently used i for the first time and the stuff sagged horribly. I spent close to an hour going back over the sag spots so the $7 a gallon I saved over the BM Regal Wall Satin went right out the window. Not to mention it really doesn't cover well AND THIS WAS THE FLAT PAINT!!. Not covering well means it lacks pigment. Sagging means it lacks binder. Well, since paint basically only consists of 2 ingredients besides water (Binder & Pigment) that means the crap has too much water. Behr paint really needs to be right next to the $10 low end Glidden stuff at Home Depot and priced the same. I hade the same luck with thier exterrior paint. I was painting over existing white trim. All bare wood got primed with Zinser white oil and the I used the Semi-gloss Ultra Pure White and even the places I put two coats on looked streaky. 2 Coats of white over white and it looks streaky.
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I've had mixed results with Behr and Benjamin Moore. I coated my living room with Behr interior flat. The short story is I'm a novice painter and I put a 2nd coat and mixed in another gallon. The color was ever so slightly off - just enough to notice. The corners and along the ceiling was a little different.

I ran out of Behr at that point and decided to try BM. I picked up a gallon of the Regal interior flat. Unfortunately the guy promised they can match it perfectly but the color was definitely different, but I guess I shouldn't have expected a perfect match. Live and learn. I've had a lot of frustrating experience with my projects over the last year, but I am learning from it.

Basically I was unhappy with the evenness. I could see roller marks in the paint in the correct lighting, something I didn't notice with the Behr. It didn't seem to be as even or consistant. Add that with the "colder," grayer color and it left me somewhat saddened, but after all the coats I put in there I made the decision that I was DONE.



Moving onto the kitchen, I picked a nice, deep, rich red color in Behr interior eggshell. After a coat of tinted primer and four coats of red, I was out of paint and it still wasn't coated. I was close. I'd guess just another coat or two would have done it. I picked up a gallon of BM Regal interior eggshell to match the red and try that (same trip that I picked up the beige for the living room). Again the guy didn't match the red. It's milkier and rustier. Again I was disappointed with the color, but hey, it was close enough (I guess) and I wasn't about to get hung up on it. It was in fact a different color, but it coated much better. I just put one coat of it over the four red Behr coats and that did it. Granted the difference in pigments may have led to the coat, as it was not a good match, but it coated well.



In the end I think I learned a lot about painting technique. I won't ever make the same mistakes again and I know better how to approach larger jobs. I'm not sure which brand I'd choose in the future. In hindsight, the biggest complaint I have overall is the Behr red was bubbling when I was putting my roller head through the tray. It was so thin that bubbles developed and even made for slightly inconsistencies on the wall. The other issue was the coating of the BM beige. I'm not sure if it was a freak thing, but it was a little troublesome.



Just some thoughts...
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Matching paint is hit and miss and that was his bad to guarantee that it would be a perfect match.
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Old 12-19-2008, 07:08 PM   #165
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I havent used very many types of paint.
Mostly Behr, it is thick and I thought this was good. thicker coverage less coats.
I do have a lot of trouble with roller marks.
The trim usually turns out well but I ave trouble changing colors.

Not a painter, I hate it because I have trouble with the walls.

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