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Old 06-11-2009, 10:01 PM   #16
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OK, I am leaving for vacation in a couple hours,so listen carefully

After removal of as much paper and PASTE as possible.
1. Sand walls
2. Remove all dust from walls.
3.Prime with Gardz using micro fiber cover, let dry a couple hours
4. Repeat 1 and 2( just sanding LIGHTLY to knock off any zits)
5 Apply your 2 finish coats using a good quality 1/2 inch cover and brush, letting drying time between coats
6 Remove drops and move on,you are done.

There is no need to apply 123 over the Gardz, in the same way there is no reason to apply Gardz to walls that do not have PASTE residue on them.
If you want to try and get away from the proper way of doing things you could have the 123 tinted to your finish color and apply that and 1( one) finish coat( 123 being somewhat cheaper than your finish color). I am not condoning this; as a coat of primer and 2 finish coats is the proper procedure.
My fingers are hurting from all this typing,so I will be back Thursday and see what's up
Happy painting and next time use Ben Moore
Chris....1)Sand walls. I sand areas I have repaired. Do I need to sand all wall area? before the Guardz?

2) I have a 2ftx5ft area over mantle/fireplace that won't budge. I think possibly it was papered over unprimed wall. Can't seem to do much with that. The Safe & Simple isn't working and scraping off quarter size pcs of paint. I've actually just scratched and gouged this once smooth area, lol. So Bob Marina said to use oil-based primer on this area. Should I use this before or after the Guardz?

3) Why do I need to sand again after priming? I didn't do this in other rooms, so I hope I've not messed up to badly.

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Old 06-12-2009, 07:30 AM   #17
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You should always LIGHTLY sand all walls before applying your primer and very LIGHTLY sand afterwards, just to knock off any paint boogers. Just run a sanding screen over them with your paint pole.
The area over the mantle,I don't get but if it will not come off, skim over to smooth ,sand prime with the Gardz,( you do not need to oil prime)LIGHTLY sand again and paint.

Oil based primer is great for going over wall paper that cannot be removed but you already have the Gardz and it will work just fine.

Are you anywhere near Maryland? It might be easier for me to come there and see what's up
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:26 AM   #18
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The sanding I've done was with a palm sander and a sponge sander and I used those in repair areas. I didn't know to pole sand all the walls, so I'll get whatever sander that attaches to a pole and use it on all wall area. Just didn't know to do it before. Thanks for the tip.

Wish I was closer to you. I'm in Huntington, WV. Not sure how far from Hagerstown, but I used to live in Prince Frederick and it is about 500 miles from here. I have a spare bedroom if you wanna make a trip, lol.

Would love to have some real expertise here. (I think I had told you about my last experiences with hiring paint/paper work here. That's why I'm doing it myself this time. Wrinkled paper corners, paper cut around nail holes and fixtures and painted cobwebs.... Oh yeah....you should see the porch and banisters outside.....paint flaking everywhere because he didn't use the primer and was painted in undesirable weather. These things happened while I was working and assuming things were being done right, lol. I can tell you a few horror stories about stuff done around this house. I rented it before I bought it...so I've seen some stuff, lol
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The pole sander will help you from disturbing the paint/primer on the walls while knocking off the "paint boogers". We use them after priming and inbetween coats. Even the cleanest paint will manage to get a booger in it some how........

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Chris....just found a Microfibre roller sleeve today. Found it at Harbour Freight for $3.49. 9" cover with 1/2" nap. Expert is the brand name. Thought you may be interested in this info.

Went to the closest Ace Hardware today to see if they had the Ben Moore paint. They said they elected to carry the Ace brand as it sells so well, lol but they could order BM sleeves. She looked it up and could only come up with the 6" small trim components, so guess the Harbour Freight deal was real sweet then.

There is an Ace about 50 miles from me that I'll go check sometime soon.
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Chris....just found a Microfibre roller sleeve today. Found it at Harbour Freight for $3.49. 9" cover with 1/2" nap. Expert is the brand name. Thought you may be interested in this info.

1/2 inch? that is great, please find out if I can order direct from them as I have not been able to get 1/2 anywhere
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Chris...found a website you may or may not be familiar with for microfiber rollers. They list 5/16", 3/8" and 9/16" for $4.99 ea. www.centralpaintonline.com
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9/16" Is that not 1/2" Thanks.
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Well, it's 1/16" larger than 1/2" since 1/2" equates to 8/16". In 30+ years of working with fractions and decimals in the industrial field, other sizes were more commonly seen than 9/16".

Anyway, hopefully these sites can save you some $$ on rollers. I could only imagine how many of those things you have to keep on hand having a paint/paper business.
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The pole sander will help you from disturbing the paint/primer on the walls while knocking off the "paint boogers". We use them after priming and inbetween coats. Even the cleanest paint will manage to get a booger in it some how........

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What grit paper do I need to use when pole sanding between coats?
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Well, it's 1/16" larger than 1/2" since 1/2" equates to 8/16".

Duh, too early this morning I guess

What grit paper do I need to use when pole sanding between coats?

100 or 120, just lightly go over the walls, I mean hardly any pressure
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What grit paper do I need to use when pole sanding between coats?

100 or 120, just lightly go over the walls, I mean hardly any pressure
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:24 PM   #28
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kk....thanks so much again

Ahhhhhhhhh and another question, lol. I'm curious how you guys dust the walls after sanding, etc. These large, tall rooms take a lot of time so on the last room I got out the Swiffer and it worked great. A lot less bending, lol.

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I got out the Swiffer

Good enough,I would bet.

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