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Shoals 11-12-2011 02:01 PM

Ceiling Primer/Paint not Sticking
 
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Yesterday I scraped popcorn off my kitchen ceiling and then painted with Olympic One Primer/Paint. The ceiling had previously been painted before popcorn was applied. Today the paint is blistering up and coming off the ceiling in various places. I don't understand why this happened but more importantly, don't know how to fix it. Will I have to scrap the entire ceiling (or just what is loose) and then use sheetrock mud to patch the different levels or will another coat of paint cover it? What can I do to make the paint stick?

Brushjockey 11-12-2011 03:29 PM

I think this is a classic example of how the all in one paint is really BS. You needed a real primer that would penetrate the dusty surface that was left after scraping.

Also the degree that you removed the old tex makes a difference because the mud that texture is bound with is not a stong bonder- so it itself doesn't adhere to the previous paint well.
Your new coat created enough pull to rip it away from the paint.

That pic is pretty small- is it just in a few spots or all over?
Its hard to know how to advise you. but if there was a substantial amount of the tex mud left- a re-scrape and then prime with a good penetrating bonding primer ( Gardz, peel stop, Smart prime, all come to mind) will be needed.
You also coud do as you said, scrape the loose stuff THEN prime( I would prime whole ceiling)- then mud, spot pime mud- finish paint.

chrisn 11-12-2011 03:59 PM

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As my esteemed colleague has said, scrape all loose and peeling areas, patch as needed, clean( get all the dust off) Prime with Gardz( or other bonding primer) , paint with paint from a real paint store.

jsheridan 11-12-2011 11:30 PM

Did you use water to remove the popcorn? And, how long did you let it dry before painting?

user1007 11-13-2011 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brushjockey (Post 769569)
I think this is a classic example of how the all in one paint is really BS.

:thumbup: There is and can never be such a thing as paint and primer in one!

Gili 01-03-2012 05:28 AM

Me too
 
Don't use this Olympic primer/paint. Same thing w me! Im sanding sections & repainting w thinner layers. Gonna use Behr next time

user1007 01-03-2012 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gili (Post 810831)
Don't use this Olympic primer/paint. Same thing w me! Im sanding sections & repainting w thinner layers. Gonna use Behr next time

Well at least we got discussions of absolute crap paint in one post! :thumbup:BEHRly paint at all should never be used but to paint the logo on the can. If you can get applied and to stick.

DrHicks 01-03-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sdsester (Post 810835)
Well at least we got discussions of absolute crap paint in one post! :thumbup:BEHRly paint at all should never be used but to paint the logo on the can. If you can get applied and to stick.

I guess I'll be the one who continues to point out that you're wrong.

If the surface is not wet or oily, and proper primer is used, Behr Ceiling Paint, or even Semi-Gloss (for the kitchen) will work fine. It's not the best paint on the market, but rather falls right in the middle or the price/quality spectrum, along with a whole host of other paints.

Please refer to the Sticky at the top of this sub-forum."This is a how to site, not a why I hate this product site."

user1007 01-03-2012 07:16 AM

Wear a cap have an umbrella handy with that watered down crap.

DrHicks 01-03-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sdsester (Post 810870)
Wear a cap have an umbrella handy with that watered down crap.

I do exactly that before reading every one of your comments - and for obvious reasons.


Learn to paint, ya hack.

oh'mike 01-03-2012 04:22 PM

Lighten up there Doc---no need to take this personally---Mike--(grumpy moderator)

DrHicks 01-03-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 811424)
Lighten up there Doc---no need to take this personally---Mike--(grumpy moderator)

Okay, I'll not bother correcting horrible mis-information. :thumbsup:

chrisn 01-04-2012 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DrHicks (Post 811755)
Okay, I'll not bother correcting horrible mis-information. :thumbsup:

Anothers OPINION is not necessairly mis-infornation.
You think Behr is fine, others don't ,it is just opinion

Who freekin cares in the long run?

jsheridan 01-04-2012 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sdsester (Post 810870)
Wear a cap have an umbrella handy with that watered down crap.

That's good advice to anyone who mentions Behr around here!

DrHicks 01-04-2012 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisn (Post 811926)
Anothers OPINION is not necessairly mis-infornation.
You think Behr is fine, others don't ,it is just opinion

Who freekin cares in the long run?

Only those who (obviously) have stock in SW or BM, and cannot handle the fact that millions of people choose a mid-grade paint, rather than an expensive top of the line paint.

Not everybody is willing to spend $65 per gallon for paint, nor should they.


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