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Old 04-10-2012, 07:50 AM   #1
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I've read a few topics on SW Brilliance which I've just used for my bathroom. I'm not a pro but I really think this paint is not right. We did the walls in Superpaint which is awesome and the bead/chair rail in SW ProClassic. Everything looks great except for the ceiling. When I purchased the paint, I didn't put much thought into the ceiling. They just handed me the Brilliance and off I went. It's been a while since I did a ceiling but I really took my time with what I feel was a decent technique. I think most ceilings in my house are BM ceiling white. While most people wouldn't notice the imperfections, I'm pissed I paid a good amount for ceiling white and had some strange textures appear. Thankfully most of it is fine. I distinctly remember having my roller soaked with paint, rolled out a small section and the texture was different from the previous roll. In my opinion, Brilliance is a rip off and not easily applied. The thing that bothers me is that I'll have to hit up another paint store for ceiling paint for future projects. Thanks for letting me vent.

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Did you do 2 coats on the ceiling? Brilliance demands it.

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yea its the paints fault
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Yea I knew I'd get some abuse. That's OK though. Just didn't dig how thick it was and how it covered. I did do 2 coats and waited a day before second coat. Like I said, years ago I painted most of my ceilings with a BM ceiling white. I forget which one but all of the ceilings look better than the one I just painted. Maybe the BM is more DIY friendly. For me, Brilliance wasn't worth the money. It may be a different story for someone that paints for a living. I'm sure this the case. Just venting.
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your using s/w that's what i use, personally i would have used super paint satin on a bath ceiling. but if a flat was desired then i would have used super paint flat its much more durable than a dead flat ceiling paint . hey go head and vent, every body should vent now and then.in fact i think i need to vent
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MJ, I've had lots of trouble with Brilliance which is a reformulation of Classic 99 which I loved. ChrisN gave me a suggestion to try Pittsburgh Paints Ultra ceiling paint. I did, and it was great. Covered up a ceiling in ONE coat.......dead flat. No more Brilliance for me.
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What nap roller cover did you use?
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Yea I knew I'd get some abuse. That's OK though. Just didn't dig how thick it was and how it covered. I did do 2 coats and waited a day before second coat. .
Far out! I haven't heard that one in a long time. Dude, just stay away from the brown paint!

I think the ease of use of Brilliance and issues with it have been debated here enough to clear you mj. I'll echo ltd and say I hope a flat in the bath won't be an issue down the road, ceiling fan or not. I'm going to check to see if I can get PPG ceiling ultra, but my go to's for ceilings are BM Muresco, Super Spec flat, and their new waterborne, which I'm using right now. I tried Coronado SuperKote flat, but had too many issues with it. It's a vinyl acrylic that I didn't care for. Muresco is a vinyl as well, but it's a better quality, though I think that's changing. It doesn't seem to be the dead flat it once was, and I've cut back my use of it.
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Far out! I haven't heard that one in a long time. Dude, just stay away from the brown paint!
Good advice...Will do!
I didn't think to do a satin finish. Good idea. The bathroom is vented but wouldn't want moisture issues down the road. One problem is that everything else is done (walls trim etc.). I'd be a little worried about getting ceiling paint splashed on the walls and cutting in ceiling to wall. It's a small bathroom so I guess if I took my time, it'd be fine. Should only take a few hours. Any tips on taking this on?
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What nap roller cover did you use?
Used a 1/2 nap Wooster. Not the high end one though. I think is was 4.00 at home depot.
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Alright, so last night I was taking a shower and noticed some spots particularly on the ceiling cut in that I missed or the paint didn't cover. Alright, I havn't done a ceiling in about 4 years so I will take the blame (although I still dislike Brilliance). I did a coat of primer and 2 coats of Brialliance. Within the spots that didn't cover well, I could see steam/water build up. This is a new small bathroom, new exhaust, window etc. The fan does work really well. Everything missed was more noticable with regard to the ceiling. I've decided that I'm going to go over it with an eggshell or satin paint. Should I do Perma-White eggshell or something else? I'm assuming it wouldn't be an issue going right over the existing paint. Thanks!
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Alright, so last night I was taking a shower and noticed some spots particularly on the ceiling cut in that I missed or the paint didn't cover. Alright, I havn't done a ceiling in about 4 years so I will take the blame (although I still dislike Brilliance). I did a coat of primer and 2 coats of Brialliance. Within the spots that didn't cover well, I could see steam/water build up. This is a new small bathroom, new exhaust, window etc. The fan does work really well. Everything missed was more noticable with regard to the ceiling. I've decided that I'm going to go over it with an eggshell or satin paint. Should I do Perma-White eggshell or something else? I'm assuming it wouldn't be an issue going right over the existing paint. Thanks!

no problem going over existing paint, but you REALLY should let it dry for at LEAST a couple days
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no problem going over existing paint, but you REALLY should let it dry for at LEAST a couple days
Sounds good Chris. Thanks!
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Any experience with Zinseer ceiling paint? Having a hard time finding perma white in eggshell so I was thinking of using the Zin ceiling paint in my bath. Since there is a coat of primer and 2 coats of paint, I thought this would be fine. It goes on pink and turns bright white flat. Thanks.

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