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silky 04-24-2009 12:57 PM

cedar deck looks like crap
 
hey all,

wondering if you guys could help me figure out why our newish cedar deck looks like crap.

It is a basic cedar deck but it doesn't look like cedar at all. It always has this dirty nasty look to it, never that nice orangish colour of cedar. It has been stained numerous times with a regular deck stain. We are thinking of using a cedar paint stain this summer but isn't that to make pressure treated look like cedar? Could the problem be that the deck was sealed with a water sealer and now the stain won't penetrate? If so, how can you get rid of the water treatment? I've been told you can't stain cedar.

thanks guys,
john

Matthewt1970 04-24-2009 01:40 PM

Yes you can stain Cedar. Any chance you can take some photos so we can see what your deck looks like ?

silky 04-24-2009 02:15 PM

I don't know if I have any pics of it recently. I have pics of when it was first built and looks a little ok. But I don't think I have any pics of it in it's current dirty looking state.

Bucky Badger 04-24-2009 04:14 PM

Does it look as bad as mine? I decided just to change the boards...They are .89 a foot
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6318/deck1.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/290/deck3.jpg

silky 04-24-2009 10:38 PM

I think it looks worse!

I think i may give it a pressure wash and see what it looks like from that.

LookoutRanch 04-25-2009 09:39 AM

Go down to Home Depot and get some Behr Premium 2-in-1 Wood Prep No. 63 and try that. (Use No. 64 if you have to strip previous coats of stain.)

We recently got a great deal on some old redwood lumber that had been laying around, and we used it to build a deck. While the price was right, the look was rather stained and weathered, so we used the Behr No. 63 to clean them up before applying a weather-proofing finish, and the boards came out looking brand new. It's like it has some kind of mild acid that scours off the oxidized outer layer. Anyway, it worked great from our perspective.

jaros bros. 04-25-2009 11:27 AM

Um, looks like a cedar deck to me...not a big fan of cedar decks for this reason.

Bucky Badger 04-25-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LookoutRanch (Post 265299)
Go down to Home Depot and get some Behr Premium 2-in-1 Wood Prep No. 63 and try that. (Use No. 64 if you have to strip previous coats of stain.)

We recently got a great deal on some old redwood lumber that had been laying around, and we used it to build a deck. While the price was right, the look was rather stained and weathered, so we used the Behr No. 63 to clean them up before applying a weather-proofing finish, and the boards came out looking brand new. It's like it has some kind of mild acid that scours off the oxidized outer layer. Anyway, it worked great from our perspective.

What did you use to treat the deck? Thanks

LookoutRanch 04-25-2009 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucky Badger (Post 265368)
What did you use to treat the deck? Thanks

We used the Behr Premium clear deck treatment. Our experience was similar to this review, only we are pretty happy with the look. It does change the color, but I would describe it as more of a rich brown than orange.

http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/mate...sealer-review/

jellydonut 04-27-2009 03:29 PM

I did a cedar deck last year that would just not give. I have no idea what was on it before, it looked like natural graying but I think there must have been something on it. The thing that worked best was sanding. I had a orbital sander at 40 grit for the rails, which took a long time. I rented a drum sander from home depot and used 60 grit to go over the boards. It ended up looking amazing after I finished. If you use a drum sander or any sander on the boards make sure that any nails, screws or whatever are flush with the wood, otherwise it'll mess up your sander and sandpaper!

chrisn 04-28-2009 05:48 AM

I would read this before using the Behr products

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...deck+treatment.

kitchenhappy 05-01-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silky (Post 264975)
hey all,

wondering if you guys could help me figure out why our newish cedar deck looks like crap.

It is a basic cedar deck but it doesn't look like cedar at all. It always has this dirty nasty look to it, never that nice orangish colour of cedar. It has been stained numerous times with a regular deck stain. We are thinking of using a cedar paint stain this summer but isn't that to make pressure treated look like cedar? Could the problem be that the deck was sealed with a water sealer and now the stain won't penetrate? If so, how can you get rid of the water treatment? I've been told you can't stain cedar.

thanks guys,
john


I love the way cedar takes on a silvery weathered look. To me that's whats so appealing. However on my other property, I used Thompson's Water Seal and had good results. But I believe once cedar starts to weather the staining takes on a different, much darker look.

Scuba_Dave 05-01-2009 07:07 PM

If you like the silvery look then why not buy PT? :laughing:

kitchenhappy 05-01-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave (Post 268128)
If you like the silvery look then why not buy PT? :laughing:

No... pressure treated is not as nice as cedar. And you know Dave that cedar will last much longer. Didn't you know that?

Scuba_Dave 05-01-2009 08:17 PM

I don't think I need longer then what the PT lasts


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