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oscarMadison 04-18-2009 09:20 PM

BM Super Hide Primer ?
 
I have had a room drywalled and started to prime it using BM Super Hide Primer. The BM primer is easy to use, thick, and covers well. I'm happy with the paint, but I don't seem to be getting the square foot coverage out of it that they say I should. Not a big deal, just wondering if this is common?

I started by doing cut in (getting practice for the paint) and then switched to a roller and started the ceiling. Maybe I'm waisting some by being cautious on the section that are mudded. It's hard to see the white paint on the white joint compound.

hellothere123 04-18-2009 09:52 PM

I wouldn't use an expensive primer on new drywall...I'd just paint directly and skip priming it.

Your probably not getting the square footage because most people paint way too thick on the first coat.

Check these videos out ... http://www.expertvillage.com/informa...tm?it=1&cats=9

chrisn 04-19-2009 03:58 AM

I wouldn't use an expensive primer on new drywall...I'd just paint directly and skip priming it.:eek:


Very,very bad advise. New drywall should always be primed to seal and provide a sound surface for your finish paint.Primer is the least expensive and most important part of the jib.

Matthewt1970 04-19-2009 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellothere123 (Post 262099)
I wouldn't use an expensive primer on new drywall...I'd just paint directly and skip priming it.

Your probably not getting the square footage because most people paint way too thick on the first coat.

Check these videos out ... http://www.expertvillage.com/informa...tm?it=1&cats=9

Just about the best Latex Primer in the business - Zinsser Bullseye 123 - $20 a Gallon.
Just about the best Latex Paint in the business - Aura - $50 a Gallon.
Having a sound durable finish to last many years? Priceless.

Prime everything. Prime ceilings so if you decide on texture paint, it will keep the texture paint wet longer while on the surface (the first coat of anything soaks in and dries quicker) so you have less chance of lapping with texture paint. Like Chris mentioned, the primer seals and even more so provides a sound surface much more durable then just 2 coats of paint. With 123, have them tint it to the finish color. A lot of times 1 coat of $20 primer and 1 coat of paint will do the job.

Back to OP. The coverage rating is kinda a misnomer. That is usually rated with spraying and a lot of times not on bare drywall.

hellothere123 04-19-2009 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellothere123 (Post 262099)
I wouldn't use an expensive primer on new drywall...I'd just paint directly and skip priming it.

Your probably not getting the square footage because most people paint way too thick on the first coat.

Check these videos out ... http://www.expertvillage.com/informa...tm?it=1&cats=9

Sorry...wrong advise...

clintb 04-19-2009 09:00 PM

I second the Zinsser products, especially the 1-2-3. But for new drywall, I've been reading about Zinsser's 'Gardz' and it's apparently excellent for this application.

Check here for excellent info: http://jackpauhl.blogspot.com/
Link to Gardz: http://www.zinsser.com/product_detail.asp?ProductID=27

Primer: It's the base coat for anything thereafter. Skip it and you'll likely have a whole host of adhesion problems.

Note: There are self-priming exterior paints, but we're talking interior here.

oscarMadison 04-19-2009 10:02 PM

The videos were helpful, used the primer to practice cutting in. As the others said I am a believer in priming. I haven't moved in yet so I want to do it right and have it last.

I finished priming the room today. Stayed with the bm super hide since it was what I had and it seemed to work well. It went a lot better in the daylight. Once I worked out a few things it all seemed to flow.

Not counting this room I've got 4 more rooms to, at a minimum, paint. The kitchen had a lot of wall paper that I removed plus lots of little patching so I was thinking of using the Zinsser Gardz on the whole kitchen. The other three just have borders that I am removing, but will have some minor patching. The paint in those three seems okay, other then it seems like it was applied carelessly, runs and what not. So any consensus, after I sand the paint and patch, should I just hit the patches with primer or just prime the all of the three rooms.

Matthewt1970 04-19-2009 10:10 PM

You can just prime the patched spots. Use the roller if you can to match the roller texture already on the wall but make sure you smooth out the edges.

chrisn 04-20-2009 04:32 AM

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about Zinsser's 'Gardz' and it's apparently excellent for this application.

Gardz is an excellent product but hardly necessary for new drywall, it is expensive and very hard for the novice to apply properly( a micro fiber roller cover is highly recommended) Zinser's drywall primer would be a cheaper a choice and MUCH easier to apply

BMDealer 04-20-2009 07:04 PM

BM SuperHide primer/Undercoater 284-00 is a great product for the money. After all said and done it should net down less the $20 a gallon, at least our retail does. As far as coverage goes, well all this varies depending on the condition and type of substrate.....basically use the sqft number as a guide more so then something written in stone.

Our biggest seller for primer is actually the SuperSpec 253. This is also a great primer that contains more solids then competing products in the same price range. SuperSpec now has a new primer 270, call a high build which help fill voids, tape joints and many other minor wall imperfections.

OK done with my sales pitch.......


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