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Old 10-22-2013, 04:04 PM   #1
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BM Oil Fresh Start (long oil) - OK for finished trim with no sanding?


Can I get away with painting finished trim without sanding it if I use this stuff? I was planning on scuffing and using Zinn 123 before painting, but I have a quart of the Fresh Start that I used to seal untreated wood for an exterior job and have plenty left. It's expensive so I figure I had better put it to use rather than letting it sit for years forgotten about.

There is a LOT of trim to be done so if I can avoid the scuffing step it will save a tone of time.

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what do you mean by finished?

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If you mean it's already painted, what's it painted with?
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No...I mean stained and poly'd. Presumably with oil. House is 25+ years old.
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If you want that paint to stick start sanding.
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But...why can I not expect the oil primer to bond well to oil poly?
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The specs are going to tell you to 'dull glossy surfaces' or something to that effect.
It will bond way better if you sand it.
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The specs are going to tell you to 'dull glossy surfaces' or something to that effect.
It will bond way better if you sand it.
yea really ,you have to clean it ,and lightly sand ,all were talking about is breaking the gloss its easy ,just do it .can you put oil with out sanding? maybe why take the chance. a door and a frame 1 side should only take 10 min. to prep.
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yea really ,you have to clean it ,and lightly sand ,all were talking about is breaking the gloss its easy ,just do it .can you put oil with out sanding? maybe why take the chance. a door and a frame 1 side should only take 10 min. to prep.
LOL, I wish that was all it was. Chair rail, baseboard and shoe, 8 door frames, 5 windows AND frames, crown. :D
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But...why can I not expect the oil primer to bond well to oil poly?

You can EXPECT all you want, but it just won't
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you need a BONDING primer, Zinnsers 123 for one
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Leave the wood and freshen up the poly.

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