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Old 12-09-2012, 03:02 PM   #1
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Local Benjamin Moore dealer had some miss-tints in white (1gal) and off white/cream (2 1-quart cans)

So for $6, I took them home. Seems they are labeled: Satin Impervo Alkyd Low Lustre Paint.

Planned about using them on cabinets but then l read about how it will yellow over time.

Thoughts on the paint? Good deal or not?

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I don't know what you mean by good deal but they will yellow over time

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Satin Impervo Oil has been the go to trim paint for painters for many years.
All oils will amber some, most noticeable in whites and lighter colors. Nature of the beast. It was accepted and not an issue until waterbornes that didn't do that, and also were high quality enough to do the job came along.

You have great paint, but it is oil. Your choice.
Before you get a "deal", it is best to know what you want out of it.

Oh- lo luster- are they interior or exterior? Int. will say satin.
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Interior paint.

I can't resist a bargain when it comes to miss-tint paints. Today I picked up 2 5-gallon buckets of Glidden interior eggshell at HD. Both the same color, talked to the girl and got them for $20 so they wouldn't have to move them around. Yeah it's Glidden, ironically the about same color I picked out at SW. Will use those for the garage.
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Interior paint.

I can't resist a bargain when it comes to miss-tint paints. Today I picked up 2 5-gallon buckets of Glidden interior eggshell at HD. Both the same color, talked to the girl and got them for $20 so they wouldn't have to move them around. Yeah it's Glidden, ironically the about same color I picked out at SW. Will use those for the garage.
Poor Garage. Just kidding. Kinda. There is decent Glidden paint but what you get a HD is usually not it.

As far as your oil goes, that is some of the best stuff they can put in a can but what is on your cabinets now? Oil does not play well going over latex even with a primer.
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Poor Garage. Just kidding. Kinda. There is decent Glidden paint but what you get a HD is usually not it.

As far as your oil goes, that is some of the best stuff they can put in a can but what is on your cabinets now? Oil does not play well going over latex even with a primer.

Garage already has a coat of something, just need to clean it and give it a coat of something, ain't picky.

Right now, just have unpainted, basic oak cabinets.
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Remember if they are unpainted you will have to prime with oil if your using oil paint. And yes they will yellow but that is a good paint and it will take years in most cases for that to happen.
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Remember if they are unpainted you will have to prime with oil if your using oil paint. And yes they will yellow but that is a good paint and it will take years in most cases for that to happen.


why?

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Why do you have to prime bare wood or why do you have to prime at all?
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Why do you have to prime bare wood or why do you have to prime at all?

why would you NEED to prime with oil in order to apply oil?
I prime with latex all the time. You can apply oil or latex over most any primer.
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Maybe it's just me then but i feel that a oil primer under oil paint in a kitchen would give you max protection and washability.
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Hmmm, I understood oil primer is v good - better than water primers, especially on some rustic wood exteriors, with plenty of resins still in wood(?). Sands way smooother too. Now, final coat with good latex, of course.
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Hmmm, I understood oil primer is v good - better than water primers, especially on some rustic wood exteriors, with plenty of resins still in wood(?). Sands way smooother too. Now, final coat with good latex, of course.
No Latex he has already bought oil base. And he only has 2 qts so I thought to prime with oil would save paint. I don't know how many cabinets he has.
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Garage already has a coat of something, just need to clean it and give it a coat of something, ain't picky.

Right now, just have unpainted, basic oak cabinets.
I haven't ran across a lot of oak I have wanted to paint. I have talked many a customer out of painting oak. The times I have painted over oak I cried a little inside. Do they look bad? Is there a coat of Poly or varnish on them?

As far as the walls go they are probably already latex and as a rule for me once it is latex, no more oil. Except oil primer but primer behaves differently than paint. There are plenty of people who will chime in and say they have painted oil paint over latex with no problem, and I have done it myself, but there are many many horror stories of oil paint peeling previous layers of latex paint up and making a mess. There is a house right done the road from here I painted working for a company. The owner of the company insisted that what was already on the house was oil and didn’t want to hear anything else about it. Ok….. We painted it with oil. It’s off the beat and path so I don’t go down that street often but I just happen to drive by it about 6 years after we painted it and there was probably 10% of the original paint still left on the house.
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Maybe it's just me then but i feel that a oil primer under oil paint in a kitchen would give you max protection and washability.

Well, I won't argue that oil primer might be best, but it certainly has no bearing on washability, you are not washing the primer

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