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Old 06-25-2014, 01:18 PM   #1
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I've done lots of work on my house, including new drywall. The texture is a smooth finish. After sanding, I've vacuumed the walls, sponged them, then dusted with a dust mop. No dust is visible on my finger when I check it. But no matter how fancy a PVA primer I buy, the finish coat bond is weak. Very low adhesive tape will always strip the paint AND primer right down to the unpainted drywall. Even with letting the PVA cure for a couple days. What am I doing wrong??? Should I stop using PVA primer?

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^^I should say the PVA primer bond is weak. THe finish coat bonds to the primer fine. The PVA just does not seem to bond with the unpainted drywall...

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I use BINS or Kilz, I've never had a problem with it even with some dust.
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PVA is just okay. If you're seeking a high quality primer, go to Sherwin-Williams or Benjamin Moore and get a quality drywall primer:
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I agree with Shu. I would not use Bin for an entire room, just spot priming the smell for an entire room would be over whelming. The only Kilz I ever liked was the original and that was oil based so your back to the odor thing. I have not used the other Kilz products for quite a while though so they could have improved.

You don't say what PVA primer you are using, but something is wrong if it won't stick to the drywall. I would try as Shu recommended or at the least Zinzer 123.
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Kilz stinks to high heaven, especially the shellac stuff, but it seals in everything and makes a perfect base for good primer. All of the paint we use is Benjamen Moore. We have almost no drywall in the current house, but I gutted all but two rooms in my last house and we primed with Kilz, then one coat of BM primer, then BM paint. The final paint finish was flawless.
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The 2 I have in mind that I've used have been a high-end PVA primer from a Benjamin Moore retailer (not sure brand) and a low end Ace product. That probably doesn't help, but that's all I've got. Is there a difference between drywall primer and a PVA primer?
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I've been in the painting biz for 35 years and have never had the problem you describe especially after you did such great prep and got rid of the dust. I've used PVA and good acrylic latex drywall primers and ALL have bonded to the drywall even some that was still a bit dusty.

There's an outside chance your drywall is defective. There have been several recalls in recent years especially with drywall made in China and sold at Lowe's stores.
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Kilz stinks to high heaven, especially the shellac stuff, but it seals in everything and makes a perfect base for good primer. All of the paint we use is Benjamen Moore. We have almost no drywall in the current house, but I gutted all but two rooms in my last house and we primed with Kilz, then one coat of BM primer, then BM paint. The final paint finish was flawless.

WHY Kilz IS a primer, you certainly did not need to add another primer on top of it
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No idea why I did it that way. It was 12 years ago. I remember it because of the unreal stench of the stuff. I used a power roller and did walls and ceilings of four rooms in a day (about 900 square feet) that was aweful... lol
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PVA is just okay. If you're seeking a high quality primer, go to Sherwin-Williams or Benjamin Moore and get a quality drywall primer:
Sherwin Williams drywall primer is just fine. I have never been a fan of straight PVA primers. I hate to say it is a wasted step but every time I have used it is just seems like it really didn't seal the surface all that well and didn't leave much of any color, not that you are really looking for that much with a primer.
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Also, doesn't happen all the time, but flashing can be a problem with the PVA primer. I don't use it anymore now about all I use is the 123 and some times the SW.
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I've always been skeptical about PVA primers. Sounds like I need to spend a little more money on a better product. Thanks for the info everyone!!!

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