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Old 10-30-2012, 09:21 AM   #16
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Yes- use a good cleaner- not something that etches. In fact two products that are great for this are Dirtex and Soilex. Both are powders.
TSP ( and substitute) are specifically to dull shiny paint for adhesion.

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How about that TSP substitute someone mentioned above? Will that do the same? Is that what HD carries?
Here is an exercise for you. Check the box that makes sense when buying things.

"The best place to buy:"

FRESH FISH
[ ] Fish market or fish counter
[ ] Home Desperate
[ ] Blowe's

CROISSANTS
[ ] Bakery or good grocery bakery section
[ ] Home Desperate
[ ] Blowe's

FINE WINE
[ ] Wine shop or liquor store with decent wine section
[ ] Home Desperate
[ ] Blowe's

NEW FERRARI
[ ] Luxury automobile dealer
[ ] Home Desperate
[ ] Blowe's

REAL PAINT AND PAINT SUPPLIES
[ ] Real paint store
[ ] Home Desperate
[ ] Blowe's
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:04 AM   #18
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Calm down sds-- I actually buy stuff from a box too- I get my Zinsser primers, cleaners sometimes as mentioned above, other stuff ( usually Menards.)
But finish paint, not so much...
And I'll skip on the fish too..
Don't be such a hater! lol
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Calm down sds-- I actually buy stuff from a box too- I get my Zinsser primers, cleaners sometimes as mentioned above, other stuff ( usually Menards.)
But finish paint, not so much...
And I'll skip on the fish too..
Don't be such a hater! lol
I wouldn't hate them so much if they gave back to the communities they serve like little stores used to do. Instead they sponsor Nascar instead of the local little league teams. When a community needs a donation of building materials it is still the independents that step in, never a box store. They keep their employees under full time status to avoid having to pay decent health insurance for families and they let our public health system pick up what slack it can. They cut deals with cities and don't pay fair shares of property taxes for things like police and fire. And the fact they sell a lot of junkie, foreign made stuff is actually quite low on my list of peeves.

Once they put all the real stores out of business they will be all that is left though and we will then be stuck not only with substandard stuff but at whatever price point they want to charge for it. Will we look back and really be proud of saving $2 if the savings ends up costing us $20 long term? And come on, it is almost cruel the way they toss poorly trained minimum wage help at unwashed masses, just accepting personnel turnover as a cost of doing business. My paint store guys spent careers at my fave Benjamin Moore dealer.

I do understand box store attraction, especially to DIYers. But I will keep crusading for support of freestanding local paint, hardware, electrical and building supply dealers. Mine may be the last generation to have many of them.

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This is actually a better explanation of why than their products suck. ( I know, some actually do..)
You should copy and keep this somewhere that you can paste as your real reason for encouraging shopping the locals.

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