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TrailerParadise 05-03-2013 09:15 AM

Best kind of paint for cabinets?
 
Just finished the construction of my cabinets and now its time to paint. Please dont try to talk me out of painting them, I have a theme going and they must be painted.
i intend to sand them with 220 grit sandpaper first, then prime with Kilz2 mold and mildew resistant primer. Because they are kitchen cabinets, this should help them last longer.
What type of paint would be best to finish them with? Needs to be white and preferably one or two coat coverage. Any suggestions?

Im only going to paint the face frames, doors, drawers, and exposed end panels.

user1007 05-03-2013 10:19 AM

What wood did you use to build the cabinets? If a soft wood like pine or fir, you will need to seal the grain before priming, or use a primer with sealing properties. A 1:1 mix of mineral spirits and processed, not raw, lindseed oil works well as as a sealer and is cheap. Shellac over any knot holes or sap scars. Let the solvents evaporate.

Unless you have already bought it, I would pick something other than Kilz for your primer. Zinsser 123 or 123 plus waterbased bonding primer would work. Unless your kitchen is constantly very humid, you should not need a biocide in the primer. If anything, you probably would want it in your finish coats anyhow.

As for your finish coats? Depending on how much gloss you want, I would pick a real paint store, not a box store, satin, semi-gloss or even high-gloss acrylic product. The world is your oyster since you want only white and not a heavily tinted color. I would use a higher end Ben Moore product myself.

Remember that "white white" can be very stark and unforgiving. It can look dirty itself in short order or make the painted colors around it look muddy. Think about shifting to even a very slightly off-white. Your eye will still "read it" as white but it will look much better. The Ben Moore off-white collection has something like 100+ options. One will blend nicely with your floor, wall and ceiling color better than white white.

Do remember the resins in latex and acrylic interior paint products will take 30 ish days to cure completely. You cannot judge the final sheen and sometimes even the final color until they cure. And you should not try to wash them for a month.

TrailerParadise 05-03-2013 10:49 AM

Thanks for responding. The cabinets will have to be bright white to blend, because my walls are bright white beadboard. Offwhite would look dirty next to the bright white of the walls. There arent any other painted things nearby. The ceilings are bright white as well, and the floors are dark brown wood grain. My countertops will be a laminate brand with flecks of brown and gold so that it resembles granite and will match the floors. I wanted to use the mold and mildew resistant because of the humidity (steam from the stove does not vent outside) and because of water droplets from the sink.
The cabinets are constructed from pine face frames and birch plywood and pine bases. I looked for any other wood but only thing i could find precut 1x2's in was pine, cedar, or poplar and i couldnt afford the poplar and cedar stinks.
I will look into the Ben Moore collection, thank you.

user1007 05-03-2013 11:14 AM

Gotcha. I still think, if you must have a biocide it belongs in your finish coats and not your primer. You can buy a biocide and add it to most products cheaper than buying it mixed in, by the way.

You need a sealer for the softwood, or a primer/sealer combo with the possibility of having to sand with something a bit more coarse if a waterbased primer raises the grain on you. I would think about the mix I suggested.

If you have not already purchased it, all but the original oil-based Kilz is rather poor quality stuff. Zinsser products will serve you much better or specific paint store brand kitchen and bath products if you really want to go there.

White white is what you should do then so look for the factory white Ben Moore products.

chrisn 05-03-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TrailerParadise (Post 1171728)
Just finished the construction of my cabinets and now its time to paint. Please dont try to talk me out of painting them, I have a theme going and they must be painted.
i intend to sand them with 220 grit sandpaper first, then prime with Kilz2 mold and mildew resistant primer. Because they are kitchen cabinets, this should help them last longer.
What type of paint would be best to finish them with? Needs to be white and preferably one or two coat coverage. Any suggestions?

Im only going to paint the face frames, doors, drawers, and exposed end panels.


no,no,no, don't do it:no:, sd has already suggested 123, go with that

jsheridan 05-03-2013 05:17 PM

What he said ^^^. No, no, no, don't do it. 123 is a much higher performing product. And, it's a sealer that's going to give you better enamel holdout, meaning the primer will not absorb the sheen out of the finish. Besides, can't ever say I've seen mold and mildew be a problem for kitchen cabinets. Here here for unanimity.
From a decorative standpoint I can't say I agree with your logic on the cabinet color. Kitchen cabinets are not trim, and aren't required to match trim or a wall color. They can stand alone. From what you're describing, a color on the cabs might break the pure white "heaven" or "sterile lab" look, but it also might create a nice transition from all that white to a darker floor. A medium, or just under medium, color that picks up some of the counter top color would look sharp and interesting. Be bold man. Paint is also used to create interest and focal points, to move the eye about the place. A sea of white is rarely a good thing, unless you have vibrant, colorful or patterned decor and furnishings, things that speak and stand out by themselves. Just MHO.

TrailerParadise 05-03-2013 11:54 PM

i want a white kitchen. white makes it more open and bright. nothing worse than a dark dungeon of a kitchen. and its not all white, the end wall is brown and tan, the countertops are brown tan and gold, floors are brown and one partial wall and one cabinet are brown. itll look great when its done. im not a bold person and i hate bright or bold colors. i like a more neutral palette. i despise stained wood cabinets. stained floors are great but cabinets look like crap to me. if i wanted stained wood cabs i wouldve kept the originals. thanks for the info tho.

chrisn 05-04-2013 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jsheridan (Post 1171965)
What he said ^^^. No, no, no, don't do it. 123 is a much higher performing product. And, it's a sealer that's going to give you better enamel holdout, meaning the primer will not absorb the sheen out of the finish. Besides, can't ever say I've seen mold and mildew be a problem for kitchen cabinets. Here here for unanimity.
From a decorative standpoint I can't say I agree with your logic on the cabinet color. Kitchen cabinets are not trim, and aren't required to match trim or a wall color. They can stand alone. From what you're describing, a color on the cabs might break the pure white "heaven" or "sterile lab" look, but it also might create a nice transition from all that white to a darker floor. A medium, or just under medium, color that picks up some of the counter top color would look sharp and interesting. Be bold man. Paint is also used to create interest and focal points, to move the eye about the place. A sea of white is rarely a good thing, unless you have vibrant, colorful or patterned decor and furnishings, things that speak and stand out by themselves. Just MHO.


Of the thousands( or more) of cabinets I have seen, I have never seen moldy ones.

jsheridan 05-04-2013 06:35 AM

I wasn't suggesting stain, you said please don't try to talk me out of painting them, I wasn't trying.


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