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Old 05-26-2009, 07:58 PM   #16
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SunShield
Aura BM
Duration SW
Moor Glo BM
Super Paint Sw
A-100 SW
siding in a can-(Duron) was wonderful and greatly priced, but SW bought and snuffed it out. :>(
Porter paints Permanizer

Of coarse I can take Behr with proper prep and make it outlast the yahoos where I am from even with the above choices.

*Not an endorsement for Behr at all.

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Old 05-27-2009, 10:38 PM   #17
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Yeah the Duron line was great and they had the best caulk and lambswool roller covers but like you said SW snuffed that out. They even got rid of the Whizz roller covers that I use in faux and replaced them with that chineses garbage....fair warning don t buy these covers they literally fall apart and shed worse than a dog in the spring....lol

The Siding in a can was some great stuff tho . They had a line that was even better than that but it was short lived because it was costing them to much to make and killing their bottom line. I twas one of their standard paints when they first opened their doors. I cant remember now,
You seem to know alot young man....we need more people like you. Im teaching decorative painting now. It seems theres not enough tradesman these days
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:14 AM   #18
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The Siding in a can was some great stuff tho . They had a line that was even better than that but it was short lived because it was costing them to much to make and killing their bottom line. I twas one of their standard paints when they first opened their doors. I cant remember now,
You seem to know alot young man....we need more people like you. Im teaching decorative painting now. It seems theres not enough tradesman these days[/quote]


Was the product called Weathershield? It was a good product. One thing I did do was work at a Duron for about 9 months just before I went on my on. I just left my Grandpas company fed up with the way my Uncle was running things and wanted a break to regroup.

It was a good experience to see how things work on that side of the counter. The manager that is the head district guy for SW where I was from was the Manager for Duron before they were bought out. He said the difference between Ultra Deluxe and Weathershield was the labeling. Same product came from same spigot into same can with diff label.

He also told me that A-100 was also Super paint in a different label. I guess they had to make a market for lower end. I guess with the way they price things it only costs a few dollars to produce it anyhow.

As far as craftsmanship. Even if I did not have the persona for perfection in painting and power washing I had no choice. My Grandpa demanded nothing less. I remember the older crew members would dog me out. I was King of the soggy feet with all the complimentary brush washing. One guy pulled me to the sad and told me to keep my head up and that i would be leading the crew in 1 year. He was right. I was always around painting and with being a 4th generation on my Moms side and a 2nd generation from my Dads side there was no choice for me.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:20 AM   #19
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Thats a great story,
I have two sons that are now 20 and 21 and a daughter who is 27. when my boys were 14 15 years old I had them working with me during the summer, but down here the cheap labor took over the majority of the market and I seen no future for my boys in the business, so I encouraged them to get into something else and I continued with my art career. It use to be more about quality than about money and the crew of about 18 I had were of the finest men and women in town but I kept getting underbid by as much as 50 and 60% The money they had to make finally was not enough and most of them moved on, I refused to sacrifice the integrity of my reputation and basically wound it down sad to say. My Decorative art blossom and now thats all I do but I still love the business and like to help when I can. Its funny how life can change and I believe everything happens for a reason so now I teach my art and consult others in the painting business and contribute my knowledge on my website and in forums such as this one and many others. Its my way of giving back to a 30 plus year career that I have had in the business, but it wasnt enough, so I started my own instructional DVD's that I learned how to produce myself because I couldn t see paying the prices they wanted to produce a 90 minute dvd ($7,000-$60,000.00) and the fact they wanted at least half the royalties and the copyrights . So I educated myself in this and now I produce them myself lol. Back when I was young it use to be a handshake and your word was enough but those days are long gone unfortunately. I am still passionette about my art and helping others and if you surf the net you will see that I am every where lol

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Old 05-28-2009, 08:58 AM   #20
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Thats a great story,
I have two sons that are now 20 and 21 and a daughter who is 27. when my boys were 14 15 years old I had them working with me during the summer, but down here the cheap labor took over the majority of the market and I seen no future for my boys in the business, so I encouraged them to get into something else and I continued with my art career. It use to be more about quality than about money and the crew of about 18 I had were of the finest men and women in town but I kept getting underbid by as much as 50 and 60% The money they had to make finally was not enough and most of them moved on, I refused to sacrifice the integrity of my reputation and basically wound it down sad to say. My Decorative art blossom and now thats all I do but I still love the business and like to help when I can. Its funny how life can change and I believe everything happens for a reason so now I teach my art and consult others in the painting business and contribute my knowledge on my website and in forums such as this one and many others. Its my way of giving back to a 30 plus year career that I have had in the business, but it wasnt enough, so I started my own instructional DVD's that I learned how to produce myself because I couldn t see paying the prices they wanted to produce a 90 minute dvd ($7,000-$60,000.00) and the fact they wanted at least half the royalties and the copyrights . So I educated myself in this and now I produce them myself lol. Back when I was young it use to be a handshake and your word was enough but those days are long gone unfortunately. I am still passionette about my art and helping others and if you surf the net you will see that I am every where lol

Peace!
I know what you mean about cheap. I am 38 and lived alomost 37 years in Jacksonville, Fl. It got real cheap. My pot of gold was from a real estate lady in a upscale neighborhood. When the market dropped she moved on to new construction. I had the trickle down of repeat, but the new home owners were hard to convince when the cheapos were opening up shop out of the trunk of their car every day.

My Grandpa described scenes of how he used to land a lot of work. It sounded like something from Legends of the Fall with Brad Pitt and those poker games back up in the woods during the 30's. A swig of moonshine and a handshake led to contracts over the years that amassed hundreds of thousands of dollars. Never any contracts. No work order changes. You performed the work and you got paid. No fancy office ladies or answering services. If you did not reach them at the poker games, bar or their home you were out of luck. Very different times...

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