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Old 03-23-2010, 07:52 AM   #16
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Well figure out how much surface are you are painting. A gallon of paint should cover around 350 square feet or so for one coat.
Since this house has some wood damage which will have to be fixed before paint can go on and the house hasn't been painted in about 20 years would you recommend 2 coats of primer and 2 coats of paint verses one of each? Caulking recommended too? Any particular type of caulking? Under the eaves of my house, every so many feet are these aluminum looking grills which I think are vents, if I wanted to replace them with new ones do most people paint over them or not if new ones are installed? If you know what I'm talking about what are those things called so I can call Lowe's to get a price on new ones? I must have at least 30 going all the way around my house.

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The front and back screen doors on my house are also made of wood, they're old, I'd like to replace them with storm doors, the front door would have glass from top to bottom, the back door would have a window with a screen at the bottom which could be raised or lowered. If I could get a painter who knows what he's doing could the painter paint new storm doors to match the new color of paint painted on the house or would I have to settle for white storm doors? I have seen some at Lowe's with different colors but if I could I'd like to buy new white storm doors and have them painted to match the color of paint on the house. The doors would probably have to be painted with a different type of paint besides latex and applied to the storm doors using a spray gun like what's used to paint a car I would think. Advise anyone if you know.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:53 AM   #18
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Like I said before every paint store will give you their slant on their paint which is why I use the internet to do research and to also participate on boards such as this to get good solids answers for guidance, answers other than "Go to any real paint store to check".
People will tell you to talk to your local paint store and not a big box because both the product and staff are better. The staff at the big stores receives training in their products and the applications (climate, materials, application methods.) The box stores staff frequently couldn't tell you the difference between a sash brush and a flat brush. There are also several paint reviews floating around. They frequently will rate Behr pretty high but that is a price point issue, not a quality of paint issue. SW, BM or PPG paints are all very good products.

You can also pick up the phone and call any of the big stores and talk to them. I call my local SW store with questions just about every time I paint something and they are always very helpful and give great answers. The major brands also have a technical department that can provide you with specs for your particular region. I've had to call SW several times for projects here and they have been great.

As a non-pro painter I would recommend using Sherwin Williams paint. I have never used Benjamin Moore so I can't say if its better or worse than SW but I have not heard bad things about it.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:55 AM   #19
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I have a house located along the Mississippi gulf coast which needs to be repainted, what's the best brand of exterior latex house paint in a satin or low gloss finish that will hold up well in my area which has high humidity during the summer? Also when is the best time of the year to paint the outside of a house located in the deep south? My house in Biloxi, Mississippi is located about 3 miles north of the gulf. The last time the house was painted was about 15 years ago, the paint used then was Sears Weatherbeater.
My favorite exterior paint is Duramax Satin finish, by Valspar. it's AWSOME goes on like butter and covers great! when getting your bids be sure they include: cleaning, caulking, priming and painting of body and trim. it sounds like you'll need about 10 or so gallons of each. my favorite primer inside & out is zinssers 1-2-3, unless you have raw cedar siding, then use zinssers coverstain. if your doing a dark color then ask your paint assoc to tint the primer a bit. I know contrators love to "spray" the primer & paint, but personally, a better job done would be to roll & back brush both primer & paint on. so maybe you may want to ask your contractor "how" they plan on applying it. good luck
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My favorite exterior paint is Duramax Satin finish, by Valspar. it's AWSOME goes on like butter and covers great! when getting your bids be sure they include: cleaning, caulking, priming and painting of body and trim. it sounds like you'll need about 10 or so gallons of each. my favorite primer inside & out is zinssers 1-2-3, unless you have raw cedar siding, then use zinssers coverstain. if your doing a dark color then ask your paint assoc to tint the primer a bit. I know contrators love to "spray" the primer & paint, but personally, a better job done would be to roll & back brush both primer & paint on. so maybe you may want to ask your contractor "how" they plan on applying it. good luck
I would say at least 10, possibly 15 gallons max, paint and primer but I'm no painter but I did paint a pair of wooden pedestals once which sat out on my carport, one on each side of the back door. The pedestals were 4' tall and except for the top and base the column part measured 14" square and I used 1 1/2 gallons of paint on both pedestals, one coat of primer and 2 finish coats of paint and this guy who came out yesterday said he could paint my house with 5 gallons of paint? I don't think so. The problem I'm running into now is other painters only paint, they don't replace bad wood with new wood or jack up and reset porch columns shifted by Katrina, they just paint.

I haven't called anyone out just to replace the bad wood which will have to be done first before any new paint can go onto the house. Here's another question I haven't asked yet. How soon can you repaint the outside of a house in the deep south? This morning's low here was 44F, it's sunny today and 60F now, relative humidity is 80% which is high. Would the air need to be real dry, very low humidity for the paint to take good? Also how soon should primer and paint be painted onto new wood once it's been replaced? Immediately? The next day? If new wood is installed but not painted, it rains during the night, the wood gets wet, is that a problem or not? Just wait until the new wood dries out the next day then paint?
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Hi, I wouldn't wait too long to prime & paint the replaced areas. Next day if possible. If you go to http://www.valspar.com/products/prod...max_Paint.html you can check out more info and they also have a tech line to call them for any addt'l questions you may have. Sounds like you may need to get the issues corrected by seperate contractors and then hire out the painting job. I hope this helps you with your projects.
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Hi, I wouldn't wait too long to prime & paint the replaced areas. Next day if possible. If you go to http://www.valspar.com/products/prod...max_Paint.html you can check out more info and they also have a tech line to call them for any addt'l questions you may have. Sounds like you may need to get the issues corrected by seperate contractors and then hire out the painting job. I hope this helps you with your projects.
That sounds like a winner. When is the best time to paint the outside of a house in the deep south? Is now too early? Should I wait until it gets hotter? A painter told me once the hotter the outside temps are the better for painting the outside of a house but do it before mid July which is when dog days set in here, rains every afternoon for almost 2 weeks, we refer to it as the dog days of summer.
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Nobody can tell me when's the best time to paint the outside of a house here in the deep south? Nobody?
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That sounds like a winner. When is the best time to paint the outside of a house in the deep south? Is now too early? Should I wait until it gets hotter? A painter told me once the hotter the outside temps are the better for painting the outside of a house but do it before mid July which is when dog days set in here, rains every afternoon for almost 2 weeks, we refer to it as the dog days of summer.

I would ask a real painter before taking advise from whom ever gave you that info.
I would also consider mine and other professional posters advise and not to use Valspare. This is not a quality paint by any means.
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I would ask a real painter before taking advise from whom ever gave you that info.
I would also consider mine and other professional posters advise and not to use Valspare. This is not a quality paint by any means.
It was a real painter who gave me that advice years ago and I'm not considering Valspare because I've never heard of it. I'm considering Sherwin Williams "Super Paint" or something comparable by Benjamin Moore. I got in touch with the painter who painted the inside of my house back in the late 90's, he's an old pro and very good, he's alway's busy. He told me he'd come see me this Saturday and give me an estimate to paint the outside of the house. I asked him about the other guy's bid of "5" gallons of paint and "5" gallons of primer, he said that sounded too low but he'd know more when he came out to look at the house this Saturday.

Since the house hasn't been painted in a long time once it's been pressure washed, sanded, all bad wood replaced he recommended going with "2" coats of primer followed by "2" coats of finish paint. He recommended a low gloss or satin luster finish rather than a flat or a high gloss finish. If the paint will be latex the primer would also be latex or not? I'll have to ask him that this weekend. I know this guy's bid will be higher than Mr. "5" gallon's but the job will be done right.

Many of his customers right now are rebuilding their homes back on the beach which were heavily damaged by Hurricane Katrina, they are rebuilding very large homes back on the beach, I would hate to think how many gallons of paint and primer those homes would take but the owners of those homes can afford it without question. Some that are building back are building back 3 story homes on the beach, beautiful homes with huge columns and porches. We all hope we never have to deal with another storm like Hurricane Katrina ever again.
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Not from the deep south but I can tell you not to paint in direct sunlight. Since your are hiring it done, why not ask the painters when is the best time to have it done? If you drive around and see other houses being painted, it's probably a good time to do yours as well.

I haven't had any problems with the Behr paint from the Home Depot. I had my wife's stepfather do the painting but he overestimated by about 6 gallons so there is about 70 dollars worth of paint sitting in my basement. Since you don't know how much paint you need, why don't you trust your painter's estimate of 5 gallons? If he underestimates his materials after you contract with him to do the job, isn't he the one who's going to be stuck paying for the additional paint?
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Not from the deep south but I can tell you not to paint in direct sunlight. Since your are hiring it done, why not ask the painters when is the best time to have it done? If you drive around and see other houses being painted, it's probably a good time to do yours as well.

I haven't had any problems with the Behr paint from the Home Depot. I had my wife's stepfather do the painting but he overestimated by about 6 gallons so there is about 70 dollars worth of paint sitting in my basement. Since you don't know how much paint you need, why don't you trust your painter's estimate of 5 gallons? If he underestimates his materials after you contract with him to do the job, isn't he the one who's going to be stuck paying for the additional paint?
Well my house which sits on a lot faces south and no trees cover or shade it, never thought about that. Why not paint in the direct sun? The paint would dry too fast? As for the "5" gallon guy, you're right, if I decide to go with him I'm going to make him put it in writing that if he underestimates on the paint it will be his expense to make it right. He told me the other day when I asked him about it, if he ran out he'd just go buy more paint and primer if needed and add it to my bill. I told him I'd think about it, he probably won't call me back. This guy who I've got coming out this weekend, now he knows his stuff when it comes to painting and I would trust his judgment when it comes to how many gallons I'll need over the "5" gallon guy.

He did tell me earlier today the Benjamin Moore paint that he uses goes for about $45.00 a gallon, pricey stuff but it must also be good. Most contractors here ask for at least 50% up front before they even start a job and collect the balance upon completion of the job. Is that typical in other parts of the country or not? Now if I know the contractor I have no problem with that but it's those I've never dealt with that I would have a problem with unless they gave me several good references but sometimes good references mean nothing if it's coming from a cousin, an uncle, brother-in-law, drinking buddy, etc.
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Yes, It dries too fast, covers poorly, shows through, dryss on the brush making it difficcult to clean. It's best to choose a cloudy day or early morning for south side of house. Yes 50-50 is pretty typical. That way they at least have their materials covered if you stiff them. bbb.org is a good place to start for reputable contractors.
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Yes, It dries too fast, covers poorly, shows through, dryss on the brush making it difficcult to clean. It's best to choose a cloudy day or early morning for south side of house. Yes 50-50 is pretty typical. That way they at least have their materials covered if you stiff them. bbb.org is a good place to start for reputable contractors.
Thanks for the info on painting in the sun. That part about painting on a cloudy day is good as long as thunderstorms don't blow up in the afternoon which is typical here in the deep south during the summer months. What if it's cloudy all day, no rain is expected during the night, how cool can the temperature get at night and not cause the freshly painted surface to not set? As long as the lows don't drop below 60 degrees F? 50 degrees F? Does relative humidity at night also affect the way the paint cures or adheres to the surface painted earlier in the day? For example last night it got down to 48 degrees F, we had relative humidity of 100% with dense fog. The fog didn't burn off until about 10:00 a.m. today. Yesterday wouldn't have been a good day to paint the outside of a house here I don't think or would it have mattered?
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His formula was for for 1 coat. For a brick house like you describe five gallons of primer and ten gallons of top coat should do. It sounds like he only planned on one finish coat. I assume you are not painting the brick.

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