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mgreenhaw 07-31-2012 03:09 PM

Benjamin Moore Advance/Muralo and HVLP
 
Is it ok to use a HVLP spray gun to apply Benjamin Moore Muralo paint? I purchased a Husky HDS590 HVLP gravity feed spray gun and am getting ready to paint the kitchen cabinets I sanded. Everyone I have spoken to has recommended the Advance or Muralo paint which is a latex enamel. The paint gun manual says it is designed to spray light to medium viscosity paints.

I admit I am a novice at this and this is my first time using this spray gun. I'd really prefer not to ruin it. :)

MEE123 07-31-2012 03:19 PM

I thought Muralo was a totally different paint company from Benny Moore. Good luck!

mgreenhaw 07-31-2012 03:31 PM

I'm not sure. I was in the Benjamin Moore store asking about the Advance and the clerk told me the Muralo was the latest paint they had available. Any idea about the original question? :-)

MEE123 07-31-2012 06:53 PM

Sorry, no. I'm not brave enough to try spraying. All I know is plenty of guys spray advance, but I'm not sure what they use. Maybe check out paint talk and search advance?

ric knows paint 07-31-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgreenhaw (Post 978459)
Is it ok to use a HVLP spray gun to apply Benjamin Moore Muralo paint? I purchased a Husky HDS590 HVLP gravity feed spray gun and am getting ready to paint the kitchen cabinets I sanded. Everyone I have spoken to has recommended the Advance or Muralo paint which is a latex enamel. The paint gun manual says it is designed to spray light to medium viscosity paints.

I admit I am a novice at this and this is my first time using this spray gun. I'd really prefer not to ruin it. :)

Ben Moore and Muralo are 2 separate companies...Ben Moore Advance is a water-borne alkyd and I'm guessing the Muralo product they're recommending is their water-borne acrylic Ultra-Ceramic (at least, I hope it is). Both would be considered a medium viscosity paint, but it will probably still require a little thinning prior to spraying through an HVLP - with either product, thin, sparingly, only with water.

Neither of these products are what you'd call "conventional" interior paints... and each possesses characteristics that give them the tough, durable film necessary for kitchen cabinets. There is, however, a learning curve for the application of both these products - especially if, as you say, you are a novice to this. If this is your first time applying either one of these coatings, or the first time spraying via HVLP, my advice to you is buy an extra quart or so and practice, practice, practice on some type of board (other than your cabinets) to get the feel of the gun, and learn the application nuances of the paint, before committing to the entire job.

I don't think you'd go wrong with either product, but if it were up to me, I'd opt for the Muralo Ultra-Ceramic as I have a version of that on my kitchen cabinets, that I sprayed through HVLP, about 15 years ago - and still looks great. Good luck to you - and remember...practice!

Brushjockey 07-31-2012 07:01 PM

What he said...

I personally don't recommend spraying , particularly cabs, to anyone who hasn't been taught how or been doing it for a while.
spraying just looks easy. It isn't.

mgreenhaw 08-01-2012 11:13 AM

Thank you for the quick responses. Practice was already in my plans but thanks for the good advice. Instead of practicing on wood, I had planned on stapling up some kraft paper in my garage and using that for practice so once it dries I can just roll it up and throw it away.

As to the two companies thing, I think what thew me off was I walked into a "Benjamin Moore" (Huge sign) store but underneath was the real name of the store. I guess the Ben Moore part is just a really huge advertisement. LOL The clerk there was pushing me towards the Muralo paint so I thought it was a Ben Moore product based on the huge sign outside.

Thanks again for the help.

granitepeaker 08-13-2015 09:55 AM

BM Advance Spraying with Airless Sprayer
 
I'm just finishing spraying my cabinets white - total reface from oak.

We used the BM Advance Satin 3.5 gallons and BM Advance Primer 2.5 gallons. The finish paint was $50/gallon and I think the primer may have been $48/gallon. The color we chose was Cloud White and we love it. They have to jimmy rig the Advance Primer to tint it, but it's possible. I sprayed everything in the garage in an enclosed plastic area. I would highly recommend a lazy suzan type turntable to spray all your pieces on. It eliminates so much risk of spraying multiples at once. I only saw one available at walmart and it turned out working amazing. It was a two stand with 3 wooden dowels. So on the large stuff I set them on the 3 dowels. For the smaller stuff I popped the top of the turntable on that had three golf tees glued to it. I bought the Graco Magnum LTS15 for $270 at Lowes with a 10% off coupon. Got some experience ahead of time by painting the exterior of the house. Used a Graco RAC X Fine Finish Tip 214.

Finishing our large kitchen in two weeks. First week lowers, then this week uppers. It will be about 100 accumulative hours spent. I paid friends to help me sand on the Saturdays and help brush/roll paint the inside. Our first day spraying was 99F. The max temp for application is 90F with a recommended 77F. I was fanning the AC into the garage as much as possible. One of the boards had a bad cracking effect and eventually had to use stripper and start over on that one. A few of the others had minimal cracking that we got cleared up with sanding and the additional coats. The cracking was noticed mid day and half way through spraying primer. I lowered my sprayer pressure down from the recommended 75% pressure to between 45-55% and intentionally sprayed less and never saw the problem again. I had all the cabinets drying in the garage. Used 2x4s across saw horses, etc. I hot glued golf tees to the boards and set the boards on those. Be mindful not to flip them after the dry to touch time or you'll get dimples. Wait at a very minimum the recoat time. Make sure to use two finishing coats. The inside required three finishing coats. I cleaned them all with TSP and Klean Strip Sander Deglosser. Also used an orbital sander of 120 grit before primer and then 220 grit after primer. Then a fine sanding block between coats. We also used an Elmers sandable wood filler to fill screw holes. You can see a handful of divets from over sanding. In a perfect world we would have spent more time redoing some things, but who wants to have their kitchen tied up for a minimum of two weeks. Overall we are very pleased with the BM Advance.


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