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Old 05-13-2009, 05:32 AM   #46
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In that price range, which I don't regard as being cheap, where do I turn for the rest of my job? BM, SW, Other?-


Most ANYTHING would be better than behr. Avoid the big box places( valspare, etc,) and go to ANY real paintstore and tell them what you are doing and what they recommend
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:20 AM   #47
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In that price range, which I don't regard as being cheap, where do I turn for the rest of my job? BM, SW, Other?- are BM & SW in that range? How about the big competition - Valspar at Lowes - is it worth a try? My goal is to find a paint that is thinner, that will cover well and won't leave me with a sore arm when I finish the day. Please let me have some suggestions. I don't want to make a career of this - I'd like to finish reasonably quickly!
Well in that price range you may want to try Ben Moore's new Ben line. So far we have had nothing but great reviews from those that have used it. Covers great, waterborne, low voc, and it falls with in the Behr price range. Figure on paying anywhere from $28 to $30 for a can of eggshell. In my biased opinion it will be worth the extra few bucks.......
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:35 AM   #48
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I'll add my two cents as a recent convert to "you get what you pay for" - used Behr for several years since it was readily available every day at HD and I wasn't going to get suckered into overpaying for that "fancy" expensive stuff like BM or SW. Reading this and other threads convinced me to test the theory and I bought SW ceiling (Pro 200 or something like that) and wall (Duration) paint for basement project (4 rooms). Holy s#*@! Big difference and I'm never going back to Behr or anything like it. I gave the guys at SW my square ft dimensions and was surprised at how few cans they said I needed, but I went with it. Turns out, you get what you pay for since SW covered more than twice as well as Behr and the visual results are not comparable. Biggest difference was the ceiling paint - Behr ceiling paint (purchased fall 2007) was WATER (worst I ever seen) and it drove me to tears when I put it up on all the first floor ceiling - had to have a pro come in after and spray a super light texture to cover up the disasterous job Behr did on the ceilings (after trying to cover with 3 coats). At the time, I was too heartbroken and physically tired to even complain to Behr (but I guess I am now). Wall paint wasn't quite as bad, but due to coverage alone, I spent less on SW so I guess I was suckered after all. At least I now know better.

Thanks for the advice, painting community - I'll keep listening!
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:46 PM   #49
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Wow, what a beating. I feel bad for the guy from Behr.

I did buy a can to repaint a door and it went on OK, but I used a brush and only put on a thick coat.

It is good to be able to put on a thick coat, since it will have a smoother texture when it dries.

What brand of paint do the people on the forum like?

What does Home Depot sell that is decent quality?
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:01 AM   #50
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Ya sure pal. People are just flooding forums with complaints about Benjamin Moore paint sagging, too thick, white not covering white, peeling and that it stinks.
I got a good chuckle out of this.

I've had some acceptable experiences with Behr paint, but I've had a really bad experience with their whites.

I bought pre-hung, pre-primed interior doors for a remodel. They came from Home Depot. I had the doors flat on saw horses - that allowed me to go really heavy with the Behr Premium Plus 'Ultra Pure White' semi-gloss (this is not the newer nano technology stuff). I couldn't believe that after the first coat - I could see streaking. White on white - streaking. What was even more amazing was that by the end of the third coat I could still see streaking!

I've explained elsewhere that I continue to use Behr paint. It works for me because I'm always using the same color to clean up rentals between tenants.

I had some tenants move into a unit and ask me if they could paint the walls brown. Reluctantly, I allowed them to paint. I told them they'd have to either paint the walls white upon vacating or pay a painter to do the work. Upon vacating, they opted to paint the walls themselves - using Behr Ultra Pure White. By the time they got to the 3rd or 4th coat, they were fit to be tied - they couldn't believe that the walls were still streaked.
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:45 AM   #52
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I've been painting for the past 2 days, sort of a test
Behr paint went on thick (4 doors), had to watch for sags, even painting thin coats

I also tried the same paint (w/brush) in a small triangle in the basement stairway
I then tried some Glidden in the basement stairway
It wasn't that big of an area so I was going to use a roller
But there is trim to go around, railing etc
So I used the same brush I used w/Behr paint - wasn't looking forward to it
The Glidden went on like a dream, smooth & no sags
It went very quickly & I was done in no time - 1 coat
I had blue magic marker on the wall, figured I'd need 2 coats - like Behr
The Glidden covered it & all the other marks in the stairway
I'll need to 2x check once it dries
The difference between these 2 paints is day & night

Glidden America' Finest - 12 year paint
Interior Latex Semi-gloss Enamel - off-white

Behr Premium Plus - Lifetime Guarantee
Interior Latex Enamel Semi-gloss Ultra Pure White #3050

so.........what are the differences?
Why does Glidden work so well?
I was thinking the Glidden was low-cost (less $$ then Behr as I remember) & would not be that great. That's why I used it in the basement stairway

I did an Inventory of my paint & put it in an Excel spreadsheet
I'm now going to go back & compare projects to the paint I used
I already know right off the bat 2 projects that were Behr that sagged & ran. Then I'm going to send it off to Behr in reply to an E-mail they sent me & see what happens as far as their warranty/gaurantee
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OH yeah..I forgot an important part to all this paint stuff: Good luck trying to get a paint company to admit their paint wasn't up to your task...no, no it's the paint brush, it's bad prep, it's the surface, you should have used this type of paint, or this type of primer...always so easy to point the finger at something else. Too many affecting parameters.

If worse comes to worse they give you another gallon to prevent you from slamming their name around.

Little liability = more scratch in the bank.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:59 AM   #54
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As a follow up the blue magic marker did come thru the paint as I thought it would. I can also barely see some of the dark black marks along the handrail area. But for the most part the Glidden covered everything with 1 coat of paint, It would take a few minutes to touch up the few marks.
The door was covered completely in one coat
The Glidden went on smoothly & easily, no sagging

Since this was only a test & I actually want the basement stairway area white (not off-white) I'll put a coat of white in sometime in the future. Might be a few years - after it gets banged up some more

Compare this to the Behr - 2 coats to cover my doors & the wall in the same area. There was simply no way to use 1 coat or go back & touch up. So Behr needs 2x as much paint & 2x as much time to do the same thing
Plus Behr is thicker, does not spread as easily & sags

Both paints were mixed thoroughly, same brush was used for both. Both were purchased around the same time
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My wife and I recently purchased 4 gallons of Behr Paint & Primer to paint our bedroom. We've installed new baseboard and a nice crown molding. The ceiling was painted with Behr ceiling paint and walls with eggshell finish. The trim was painted with Ultra Pure White.
The room originally was white gloss but after an application of TPST the gloss was removed and the walls seemed ready for paint. Both the crown and base were factory primed and we were told at the retailer we would not need to apply primer, in fact he removed the two gallons of Kilz we had in our basket and replaced it with Behr's product.

Average temperature of room since project started: 85+ miserable degrees and dry as the desert.

The first part of the room we painted was the crown and base which seemed to apply very nice, this was sprayed on thinned with water. We waited 4 days then masked the trim for wall and ceiling paint.
Next we painted the ceiling, it took 3 coats to cover the white but we finally achieved the desired color, this was rolled on and not thinned.
4 days later we painted the walls. Again about 3 coats on white we were finally able to get the desired color. Because of our work schedule we ended up adding a coat every 2 days, this was rolled on as well and nothing was added to the paint.

Approximately 5 days after the final coat was applied we started to remove the masking tape. The first thing I noticed was the Ultra Pure white on the trim coming off with the tape. The walls are also peeling with the tape.
Out of curiosity I scratched a section of my wall to see if I could start peeling the paint. Sure enough the paint will peel anywhere I decide to peel it up. I was able to peel off a section of 5 day old paint about 8 inches by 7 inches.

The ceiling does not appear to be peeling near as bad. I installed pre-hung doors with a factory primer and they too seem to be holding the paint rather well.

At this point I am not sure what I can do since sanding is not an option with the paint gumming my sanding discs. I am going on 4 1/2 weeks now of painting this room and now we are wondering if we have to replace the drywall and start from scratch.

Lesson learned I guess.

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That's sad...I couldn't help but think to myself that if I were me doing that exact same job for pay, I would have taken about a week to do all that with a roller/brush, and depending on the size of the room. Probably no more than 2 coats of paint maybe a primer depending on the colours. But I also can't help thinking that you had most of your problems of hiding and peeling because of inferior paint. I mean yes there may be issue with improper TSP rinsing or using the wrong masking tape or something but I also don't remember the last time it took me three coats to do anything...but then again I use BM because now I know the difference.

They may claim the paint shouldn't have been thinned...and may have something there. Don't know if that type is suitable for spraying/thinning...

That's what HD will claim and maybe they'll refund you something but good luck.
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Old 06-17-2009, 11:31 AM   #57
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Masking tape or painters tape?

But I think a painter said that you can't tape new paint ?
IE that it will peel
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Masking tape or painters tape?

But I think a painter said that you can't tape new paint ?
IE that it will peel
I used the blue painters tape. I learned my lesson years ago trying to use the beige tape...what a bad choice that was.
After reading some of the other posts in here it seems I can avoid tape all together by practicing my brush techniques. I am not aware of not being able to tape new paint. From my years in construction I've always seen pro painters taping their previous work prepping for spray.

I think with Behr's peeling characteristics it would make for a great BBQ or boat cover since it creates nice latex sheets that can easily be removed when needed.
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You should wait 30 days to tape latex to allow for curing. Oil base takes longer.
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As a long time paint dealer/consultant I would recommend you purchase some Cabot, Benjamin Moore, Sikkens and Wolman.

Test them in the lab and duplicate.

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