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Old 08-26-2012, 09:02 AM   #16
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Here's some more.
If they are actually painters, they have a proceedure, including prefered products and techniques, plus knowledge of how and when to apply that they would bring to the job.
Sounds like these guys had non of that.

To those reading- this is why you get contractors that know their biz, have a good track record and rep. It is not good to just choose on price, because this is maybe what you get from a low baller.

And always get a contract with at least something about procedure spelled out. it is protection for both you and the contractor. know what you are getting, and if that isn't what happens it is up to the contractor to make it happen.

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Old 08-26-2012, 09:38 AM   #17
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Ok, what happened was my husband and I bought everything for the remodel. We were going to do it ourselves and then realized we were way over our head. So it started out with us having everything for them. Yes, they are going to fix it. The same guys that put it the tile did the painting. The contractor does have a good rep, I don't understand why he would pick these guys to paint?? Only the paint peeled, not the kilz primer. I've attached photos.

Since they are going to sand I think I should get better paint.
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Wish they had a delete button ;(

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Can the edge of that be grabbed and more than what you see peel off? There is clearly an adhesion problem.
And the surface underneath looks suspect- it isn't just clearly white primer.
If it were me, first I'd see if the problem was just around the edges or if it was a problem with the whole surface.
Remove all that is not adhering.
Prime all with a clear penetrating sealer called Gardz to nail it down and give a dependable substrate.
Mud the irregulatites smooth. sand and reprime.
Paint with a quality eggshell finish. Go to a real paint store. ( or have them)
I like Benj Moore regal Select for that, but there are many good choices.
For a real painter how to do what I just described is not a daunting task.
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^^^^^^As usual, BJ nailed it. It looks like NO PRIMER was used or if it was, it failed to adhere to the substrate.
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You're right Brushjockey, it was the drywall underneath. Everything peeled. They didn't do a good job on the wall either...it's not peeling but there are marks that you can see.

Just to be clear - I'm going to have them peel off everything on the ceiling. Put the clear Gardz problem surface sealer on the ceiling - fix any problems they see, sand then put more Gardz primer on then paint?

How should I have them fix the wall...it looks like it needs to be sanded and the divots need to be fixed. Should I have them put the Gardz on that as well, even though it is not peeling???

I can't thank you enough for all your advise
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They used kilz primer - and the behr paint that has primer in it. Wondering if it was all to thick to stick on the wall? I'm taking it all back to Home Depot...they suck!

They do carry the Gardz at Home Depot though.
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Read over my procedure again- I think I covered it. Needs each and every step listed. Skip none.

You are missing the mud part- sanding alone won't make it smooth again.

It might have been because they put it over a dusty wall with out dusting off.
And forget about the phrase "Paint with primer in it. "
It is false advertizing. Primer. Paint. two different things in how they act and what they do. And there is better of both categories.
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You're right Brushjockey, it was the drywall underneath. Everything peeled. They didn't do a good job on the wall either...it's not peeling but there are marks that you can see.

Just to be clear - I'm going to have them peel off everything on the ceiling. Put the clear Gardz problem surface sealer on the ceiling - fix any problems they see, sand then put more Gardz primer on then paint?

How should I have them fix the wall...it looks like it needs to be sanded and the divots need to be fixed. Should I have them put the Gardz on that as well, even though it is not peeling???

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Whoa - wow! This picture makes me wonder if the even wiped down the drywall before the threw the paint on. And did they even use the primer? I mean, the exposed drywall looks exactly like it would before any primer or anything. If primer was used at all, it simply did not adhere. None of it.
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No one knows but the walls and them! I've asked the contractor to send someone else. They clearly don't know what they are doing.
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What amazes me is that it looks like they skipped the primer. Now, how much time did that really save them? In the end, it's gonna cost them more than they will ever know.........callbacks, bad references, loss of work from contractor.........hopefully lesson learned.
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No one knows but the walls and them! I've asked the contractor to send someone else. They clearly don't know what they are doing.

NOW you got it. These yahoos do not have a clue

Hopefully he actually sends a painter and not the carpenter or electrician
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It was Behr paint and primer in one. Now I know that there is no such thing as good paint and primer in one and Behr paint sucks.
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question ? is that blue board drywall . cant say for sure what i'm looking at.blue board drywall is for veneer plaster application and not painting directly over. if its not, oh well just a thought.
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It was Behr paint and primer in one. Now I know that there is no such thing as good paint and primer in one and Behr paint sucks.
Behr Paint does not suck. It is a lower-quality paint than what most professional choose to use, though I do know that some use it. It's a middle-of-the-road paint that just is what it is. Not the worst paint, and certainly not the best.

It's kind of like a Ford Focus. It's okay, but don't kid yourself into thinking that it's going to drive & ride like a Mercedes.

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