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Old 07-04-2009, 10:09 AM   #16
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We carried Duron for over 20 years. It's a decent paint but not really top notch in my opinion. They have some good products and some bad products. I never found a Duron Semi-gloss I liked. Their Plastic Kote SG was ropey and didn't hide well. Pro Kote (the cheap one) was a better SG. The Plastic Kote Flats were great. Signature Select was a joke when they came out with it. It may have improved now if they stuck Duration in the can instead. If you really want to try Duron, just ask at an SW store. They can order it for you. We took on Pratt & Lambert in place of Duron and it's been a much better paint for the most part. They still have some products that plain out suck though. Like Porcelain.

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Old 07-05-2009, 02:02 AM   #17
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Does anyone know what the practical difference is between the BM contractor grade paint vs the "premium" paint? I know there is a large price difference...

Is the BM contractor grade paint better, worse, or similar to Behr?
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Is the BM contractor grade paint better, worse, or similar to Behr?


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BM contractor grade paint or behr...
BM contractor grade paint or behr..... decisions, decisions...

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For those of you who don't like Behr paint I think it's the painter and not the paint. I've been painting for 30 yrs. and my sister used to paint professionally we both love Behr paint. I've used Sherwin Williams many times in the past and the Behr paint is just as easy to work with. However the SW paint fades. I painted a hallway and entry hall with SW and 1.5 yrs later need to repaint only one wall and the paint had faded so bad that I had to repaint the entire hall. This was in an area that the only window is the sidelite next to the front door so the fading wasn't due to the sun.
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For those of you who don't like Behr paint I think it's the painter and not the paint.
Wait till you have the stuff sagg soo bad that you have to babysit your entire paintjob for a couple hours rolling out the saggs untill it hardens up enough to stay stuck to the wall. Now your paint job is flashing all over the place. Wait till you put 2 coats of white over white and it still isn't right. Wait till you put thier deck stain on your new $10,000 deck and see it all peeling off in a couple months.
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:50 PM   #22
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I've had very good luck with Kilz 2 latex primer - sticks to everything and everything sticks to it. What bad experiences have you people had?

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I had a couple of painters spray my popcorn ceilings a few months ago with one coat of Zinsser 123 and one coat of Behr Premium Plus Ultra (the paint and primer in one). It turned out pretty good, but there are a few spots where there was some bleed through. A second coat would probably have covered it, but the painters couldn't spray three coats in one day, and it wasn't worth a second trip.

Before anyone dumps on me, I chose Behr only because their Ultra Pure White is the whitest paint I could find. I tried Sherwin Williams, Benjamin Moore, Hirshfields, Dutch Boy, Valspar, and on and on. I had one wall full of sample patches. I didn't want to use Behr because of all the negative comments, but it was easily the whitest and brightest so we went with that.

One thing you should know is that Behr Premium Plus Ultra does not come in a flat. It does come in a flat enamel, which has a bit of sheen to it. Most people do not want sheen on their ceilings and would not want to use Behr PPU for ceilings. We were OK with it because we wanted to use the same paint on all the ceilings and walls.

I also painted all the walls myself with Behr UPW and cursed it for a while because of streaking. I finally figured out that I had to apply a much heavier coat than I am used to. Really heavy, where the roller won't spin for the first few strokes.

Behr isn't as horrible as some people make it out to be, but it's not great either. And the Premium Plus Ultra isn't especially cheap. It dries ridiculously fast and it's hard to work with. It doesn't hide very well (the UPW anyway), and coverage isn't good. Unless you are in the 0.001% of the population that wants a really white white (like me), you should probably pick a different paint. And if you DO want a really white white, see if there is a Muralo dealer in your area. Their paint is just as white, but I discovered them too late.
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someone needs to do a side by side of behr with that $11 paint at walmart. i really wouldn't be shocked of the walmart paint had the better color. anyone feel like doing a sample test ?

if you guys want some fun reading, google 'behr paint sucks' there are just a zillion posts on various forums about it.

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I had a couple of painters spray my popcorn ceilings a few months ago with one coat of Zinsser 123 and one coat of Behr Premium Plus Ultra (the paint and primer in one). It turned out pretty good, but there are a few spots where there was some bleed through. A second coat would probably have covered it, but the painters couldn't spray three coats in one day, and it wasn't worth a second trip.
Why would PRO painters not put the "Paint and Primer in one" directly on the bare drywall?? It's paint and primer in one

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someone needs to do a side by side of behr with that $11 paint at walmart. i really wouldn't be shocked of the walmart paint had the better color. anyone feel like doing a sample test ?

if you guys want some fun reading, google 'behr paint sucks' there are just a zillion posts on various forums about it.
I already did that test w/$10-11 glidden
Same brush, same wall, only intended to do a small test area
Behr sucked
The Glidden went on great, so much so that I painted both walls of the stairwell with the brush
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As for service, that is arbitrary. I get good service at HD, Lowes, SW, etc. I used Behr and Valspar and both meet the expectations of most of the people here... they are weak and runny, and not economical. SW is my paint of choice. We do have a BM, Duron, and SW among others. Duron is quite popular with the new home builders. They are geared to the commercial guys. My SW dealer does a big business with commercial guys as well as with guys like me. They are very knowedgable and helful.
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Kilz and Behr are OWNED by Masco, but are both different companies, manufactured at different places.
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Hi, I saw a few of the nay-sayers and I wanted to stand up for the product.

We used the Behr paint and primer in one to paint over our fireplace bricks - which had been painted white before we got to them. In one coat, we went from white to deep brown.

One coat!

If you want to see proof, you can check out our experience with the paint on our blog:

web address: http://www.afterdinnerdiy.com/?p=227

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