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Old 01-03-2012, 03:17 PM   #1
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I am repainting ceiling in the bathroom. Current paint is semi-gloss off-white in a good condition. I am planing to paint with white mate Aura Bath or Perma White.

I know that priming is recommended, but I will be putting 2 coats of paint anyway, so I am wondering if I really need a primer.

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seems like you made up your mind,,,,now if your asking for advice...lightly sand surface. install primer tinted to ceiling color then apply top coat...

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Paint and primer are not the same thing. They do not come in the same can. Primer bonds to whatever surface and provides a surface to which the paint can stick.

If you are sure you have latex paint on the ceiling? And the surface is in good shape? Sand it lightly or use a chemical deglosser to scruff it up. Apply two coats of the new finish. You will not need a primer.

I you have any doubts about whether it is oil or latex, or if you have made patches and repairs, or the ceiling looks at all inconsistent do as Ben suggests and prime the surface after you scruff it up. I would use a superbonding latex primer. Then I would apply two coats of finish.

A brother in whites will love this. Use a 3/4" nap roller cover.

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seems like you made up your mind,,,,now if your asking for advice...lightly sand surface. install primer tinted to ceiling color then apply top coat...
I didn't made up my mind (I don't ask after I made up my mind ), just my wishful thinking. But seems like primer is way to go ;(
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I didn't made up my mind (I don't ask after I made up my mind ), just my wishful thinking. But seems like primer is way to go ;(

only if it is oil up there or you have patches all over it.

I use 3/4 for almost everything
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only if it is oil up there or you have patches all over it.

I use 3/4 for almost everything
It is latex and there are no patches all. Just color/texture change. What is 3/4?
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Sorry. We are talking about the nap thickness of the roller cover.
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Sorry. We are talking about the nap thickness of the roller cover.
well, that's the one I use too
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assuming its latex semi gloss on ceiling now .clean any hair spray ,shampoo ,bla bla bla off ceiling .rinse clean as to not have any soap residue.let dry, lightly sand with fine sand paper to break gloss ,this takes depending on the size about 10 minutes. dust ceiling ,no primer is needed 2 coats finish paint ,dont rush dry times
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Whoa! What's up with using 3/4 nap covers on smooth ceilings? In whose world?
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Whoa! What's up with using 3/4 nap covers on smooth ceilings? In whose world?
I don't think anyone was talking about smooth ceiling to start with (at least I didn't).....

I'll leave discussion of the nap to you guys, but please start different thread.

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I don't think anyone was talking about smooth ceiling to start with (at least I didn't).....

I'll leave discussion of the nap to you guys, but please start different thread.

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Vadim, do you have a textured bath ceiling? If not, 3/4 is the wrong nap, especially with a sheen. It's not a "different" thread topic, the nap was suggested, you asked a question, and then said that's what you'll use too. You opened the door. Secondly, in answering the primer question, no one picked up on the paint choices. Perma White is a bath level product, Aura Matte is not or boderline, depending upon the bath. They're two very different products. You're choices should be between Perma White and Aura Bath and Spa, now you're considering apples to apples, not apples to oranges, but though both are bath paints, they're still different grades of product. You have to determine the enivonment it needs to perform in. If it's a small steamy bath, or you have issues with mold, or you have no ceiling fan, then I would consider the perma. Short of those issues, the Aura B&S will work fine. And, the B&S is a matte finish. Regular Aura Matte would be okay in a large airy bath, or in a bath where flat was previously used and there was no indication that it failed. That's the answer to what your question should have been.
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Vadim, do you have a textured bath ceiling? If not, 3/4 is the wrong nap, especially with a sheen. It's not a "different" thread topic, the nap was suggested, you asked a question, and then said that's what you'll use too. You opened the door. Secondly, in answering the primer question, no one picked up on the paint choices. Perma White is a bath level product, Aura Matte is not or boderline, depending upon the bath. They're two very different products. You're choices should be between Perma White and Aura Bath and Spa, now you're considering apples to apples, not apples to oranges, but though both are bath paints, they're still different grades of product. You have to determine the enivonment it needs to perform in. If it's a small steamy bath, or you have issues with mold, or you have no ceiling fan, then I would consider the perma. Short of those issues, the Aura B&S will work fine. And, the B&S is a matte finish. Regular Aura Matte would be okay in a large airy bath, or in a bath where flat was previously used and there was no indication that it failed. That's the answer to what your question should have been.
Sorry if it went wrong way.

If you look at my original post, I said "... mate Aura Bath or Perma White", technically Perma White is eggshell and I should have said "Aura Bath & Spa". So I am not going with glossy, I specifically want to remove the gloss and ceiling is [unfortunately] textured, as a result 3/4 should be a right roller nip. Now, bath is fairly airy, so as you said other paints would probably work as well, but I'll probably go with Perma White if I find where to buy it.

Thanks,

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For future reference, if you have to ask "do I need Primer", 99% of the time, the answer is YES!
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Sorry if it went wrong way.

If you look at my original post, I said "... mate Aura Bath or Perma White", technically Perma White is eggshell and I should have said "Aura Bath & Spa". So I am not going with glossy, I specifically want to remove the gloss and ceiling is [unfortunately] textured, as a result 3/4 should be a right roller nip. Now, bath is fairly airy, so as you said other paints would probably work as well, but I'll probably go with Perma White if I find where to buy it.

Thanks,

Vadim

I know I said I use 3/4 NAP most all the time, but you have to remember( or at least know) I have done this day in and day out for more than 20 years. I would NOT recommend this to a DYI. You should be using a 1/2 nip at most

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