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mjarema414 07-23-2009 10:53 PM

Basement Floor issue with paint
 
Last year I prepped my old basement and apply a sherwin williams floor paint. It was recommended by one of the employees and he said I didn't need to prime the floor, just use the paint. I put 2 coats down and almost a year later, it's still gets sticky. I have a dehumidifier running during the summer and it somewhat helps. Bascially, I'd like to figure out if there is anything I could do to get a smoother feel to the floor where it's not tacky. I wish I would have done more research instead of taking their word for it. Like I said, it's an old concrete floor that was previously painted many years ago by the previous homeowner. Thanks for any advice on this. MJ

mazzonetv 07-24-2009 07:26 AM

It doesn't sound like the employee told you anything that isn't true. Most floor paints are self priming and two coats are suggested for best results. What type of floor paint is it, oil or latex? Do you know what type of paint was on the floor to begin with and what condition was it in? what prep work exactly did you do? is it tacky all the time or just when it gets humid? Not saying this is what you did, but by far the biggest mistake people make when applying a floor coating is putting it on too heavy and recoating too fast. That could be one cause....

mjarema414 07-24-2009 09:53 AM

The paint I used was SW waterborne Floor and porch enamel. I'm not sure what paint was down before but when I cleaned the floor, I made sure to scrape it good as well as clean it. I actually cleaned it about 3 times over. Basically, it's sticky when it's really humid. This summer I've been running a dehumidifier 2 hour on/off and it seems to help. I'm wondering if I should clean it real good and throw down another light coat when it's less humid. If I remember correctly, I waited 3 days to put down the second coat but didn't run the dehumidifier consistanly last summer. Thanks

4ThGeneration 07-25-2009 07:49 PM

I only use xylene base on concrete, but you should have used a moisture meter to check the concrete before coating. I like the Hand C stain from SW.

mjarema414 07-26-2009 09:50 AM

Hey 4th, is this SW product something I could put down over the existing paint or would I have to strip everything down and clean it?

housepaintingny 07-26-2009 01:48 PM

You can use H&C silicone acrylic concrete sealer to stain over existing painted concrete floor surfaces. There are about 100 colors of concrete stain to choose from. After your surface is properly preped, the stain applies just like floor paint would.

4ThGeneration 07-26-2009 03:38 PM

I also do a lot of acid staining, but it is not a homeowner type of project. Unless you have done hundreds you can really mess things up. Smith has a dye stain you can use that is much easier.

housepaintingny 07-26-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 4ThGeneration (Post 307025)
I also do a lot of acid staining, but it is not a homeowner type of project. Unless you have done hundreds you can really mess things up. Smith has a dye stain you can use that is much easier.

Acid staining is real nice when it is completed. We don't get that many request for acid staining.

4ThGeneration 07-26-2009 07:21 PM

It is a specialty product and service for sure. That's why I was talking about target marketing. The typical everyday homeowner who has a budget like most of us could not afford it just as i would not open a hot dog restaurant in Marthas vineyard. It is all relative to the market.

I get anywhere from $4-$7 a SF, but there are several steps in making it come out as it should. Every concrete acid stain comes out different and that's the whole point. Who wants to have what their neighbors want?

housepaintingny 07-26-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 4ThGeneration (Post 307108)
It is a specialty product and service for sure. That's why I was talking about target marketing. The typical everyday homeowner who has a budget like most of us could not afford it just as i would not open a hot dog restaurant in Marthas vineyard. It is all relative to the market.

I get anywhere from $4-$7 a SF, but there are several steps in making it come out as it should. Every concrete acid stain comes out different and that's the whole point. Who wants to have what their neighbors want?

I understand what your saying. Its like faux painting. I don't know about in your area, but here its not as common as it once was and most people will not pay the price to have faux painting done here. We pretty much try to have hands on anything that can be painted including
Counter top refinishing and making laminate counter tops look like marble or granite, but people can't afford that, so I reaaly don't advertise that stuff.

mjarema414 07-27-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by housepaintingny (Post 306996)
You can use H&C silicone acrylic concrete sealer to stain over existing painted concrete floor surfaces. There are about 100 colors of concrete stain to choose from. After your surface is properly preped, the stain applies just like floor paint would. Visit us on the web for more info on this product www.kelloggspainting.com

I read up on this product. The website says that it can only be used on exterior surfaces. Is is possible to use it on a basement floor over waterborne paint? It's actaully a finished basement so i'm not sure if I should use something like this.

housepaintingny 07-27-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mjarema414 (Post 307584)
I read up on this product. The website says that it can only be used on exterior surfaces. Is is possible to use it on a basement floor over waterborne paint? It's actaully a finished basement so i'm not sure if I should use something like this.

There is concrete stainfor interior, exterior, and asphalt. The H&C product I was talking about can be used on interior concrete floors. Some of there stuff is only made for walls. Go to there web site H&C.com to learn more.


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