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Old 01-02-2011, 03:33 AM   #16
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I plan to use a 1/2" nap with the primer to see if this will be a quick fix to smoothen the wall before I move on to skim coating the wall. if anyone thinks I should try smaller or bigger let me know. Also apparently I am not the only one in this situation as their others in similar situations on other forums.

The marks look like orange peel brush marks. I wonder if this was done on purpose as a few older people have said the orange peel used to be a texture preference a long time ago. Thanks for all the help.

Also the lead problem in Africa sucks (posted above me).


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Old 01-02-2011, 05:54 AM   #17
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This is the exact reason why this type of hysteria starts.

The link you provided is akin to what spraygunn said above, pouring lead onto your ice cream.

But you are using that link to show how old lead paint is going to eat us alive
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:19 AM   #18
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Here's what I would do to "smoothen" the rough walls. Mix 5 gal DW mud with 1 gal flat latex paint. Apply to wall with 2" roller. Work in 4' sq sections. Smooth out the mud with a hawk and trowel. Use the extra on the hawk to cut in the ceiling line and base.

Rinse off trowel often as the paint in the mud can dry and make it hard to remove.
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Old 01-02-2011, 09:56 AM   #19
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I would still try the primer first, you will need to explain the problem to a good paint store and try to find a very thick primer, which hopefully will give you a little fill power if that doesn't work then you may have to skim. I know when I researched out the type of primer I could use on paperless drywall (fiberglass) the manufacturer tech told me I would'nt have to skim if I used a thick primer He recommended one but I can't remember the name now. It may be worth a call to find out what they use.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:45 PM   #20
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Takes too much time,I would just get wallpapers for my walls.
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Old 01-03-2011, 02:55 PM   #21
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This is the exact reason why this type of hysteria starts.

The link you provided is akin to what spraygunn said above, pouring lead onto your ice cream.

But you are using that link to show how old lead paint is going to eat us alive
The hysteria does not start there. This is not something new. Lead (and asbestos) have been recognized as dangers to human health for as long as there has been recorded history. You agreed with Spraygun who stated lead poses no danger - the link was to refute that claim. Having said that, I do believe that diyers can manage the risk and work safely with lead. Ignoring the risk or denying it even exists, is not an effective mitigation strategy.
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Old 01-03-2011, 06:36 PM   #22
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Well Windows, let’s examine spraygunn’s remark. I believe I said, “Personally I don't buy into the whole lead danger thing, As long as you don't use it as a topping on your ice cream ” that is to say, as long as you don’t eat it. You’re probably to young to remember the days of using lead putty for filling nail holes (and yes the carpenters used to drive every nail by hand in those days) and having to scrape it off your hands before you rinsed them in turps (that’s mineral spirits in today’s language), or needing two grown men just to carry a five of pure white lead paint because it was that heavy, then washing your arms and face with turps at the end of the day to get the lead paint off our skin. Yes, I could go on about this lead issue, but who cares. Lead and asbestos are dangerous when used in an unintended manner, but so is eating dirt or breathing a human air biscuit. By the way did you know that’s a carcinogen? Do you really want to know what is amazing? It’s amazing that after working in that environment under those conditions for all those years, I am still alive and writing about it. My hands aren’t shaking, my blood is healthy and my cholesterol is 142.

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The CDC has concluded that there is no safe amount of lead exposure. That means a person needs to take precautions beyond not putting it on their sundae. I am glad you are in good health, but with minor and moderate exposures to lead, a grown man will very likely recover on his own, young children and the unborn will not. The effects are very damaging and irreversible. THe precautions that we need to take are both for ourselves and for others. Collecting lead chips, not vaporizing lead paint with high heat, and certainly not grinding lead paint with a sander inside a residence, represents an absolute minimum standard of risk mitigation.
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Getting around ALL of this...

XIM's Trim-Magic, and UMA primers are VERY high-build primers.
These can be applied very thickly with a brush. Let dry half a day or so, then sand smooth.

NOW you can have some baby's-butt smooth trim that you'll DROOOL over!

If you were in my store, that's what I'd show you first.

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Old 01-10-2011, 07:08 AM   #25
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Thanks for all the information so far. The room was on hold recently, but I'm about to jump back on it. I will look into the XIM's Trim-Magic, and UMA primers. I called my local Sherwin Williams and they recommended a High build primer, he said I could role it with a 1/2" nap, if that doesn't work than definitely skim coating.

You can view the picture I posted to see what I am dealing with. Thanks
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Been a long time since I posted but I went and skim coated the walls. Wasn't as hard as I thought. I used a slightly watered down lightweight compound roller and the magic trowel/ 6" knife for the corners. Started with a 12" knife, but me being a novice the magic trowel worked wonders. Got the the hang of the knife later on, wouldn't call me a pro, but I can get the job done in a few more coats than a pro can (not as fast putting it on either.) I'll upload another picture later. Anyone else in a similar predicament I recommend skimcoating. The results I have is worth it (the Mrs. complained as I skimcoated saying it wouldn't be worth it, now she wants the entire house done this way.) Thanks to all on this website, it is much appreciated.

The picture below is just with primer over the skimcoat.

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good for you. But sorry the wife loves it.... :laughing; just think how good you'll be after another room or two
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LMAO thats what she said. I told her she can help, she says "Well, you got it pretty much down right now the last thing I would want to do is try and help and slow you down....." I said "sounds like an excuse for you to not help." She immediately jumps into suck up mode and changes the subject with a smile .
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LMAO thats what she said. I told her she can help, she says "Well, you got it pretty much down right now the last thing I would want to do is try and help and slow you down....." I said "sounds like an excuse for you to not help." She immediately jumps into suck up mode and changes the subject with a smile .
You can always tell her that I'm a wife and I think women have more finesse at skim coating than men.

Seriously guys, I kid.
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You can always tell her that I'm a wife and I think women have more finesse at skim coating than men.

Seriously guys, I kid.

hey, I work with a "girl", lady, woman, member of the opposite sex, female, whatever, out of Westminister a lot and you would get no argument out of me

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