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Old 04-02-2011, 04:22 PM   #61
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Perfectly stated. The OP did get a crappy painting job, that is clear. But to insult a entire trade and the portion of the country north of the Mason-Dixon line is tiresome. He made ass-umptions based on this incredible scope of work he did when he was 12. The fact is that some of what he wants done (removal of electrical trim items) is illegal. He needs to stop complaining to us, and write angry letters to his members of congress
we do all know i was kidding right......this is like people typing an email in all caps, and someone assuming they were yelling, or made.

ass-umptions..

calm down my friends. How was a insulting the whole trade if i seemed to i apologize, i already stated that i know (well i dont know personally, but i imagine), not every painter is like this.

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Old 04-02-2011, 04:34 PM   #62
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I almost always remove door and door frame hardware, but I would never, ever, take the hinges off the door or frame. The last thing I need, as a painting contractor, is to compromise the integrity of a hinge by removing it from it's cutout. I take some electrical fixtures off completely sometimes, if the time involved saves me time during, or makes possible, the painting. It's not something I enjoy doing because I'm not an electrician. It may be just three wires, but it only takes one wire to start a fire. If I don't mess with it, there's no fire. If you have certain idiosyncracies, they're yours, you can't assume that everyone is attuned to them, especially when dealing with industry standards. As was stated time and again, if you want those things done you must make that apparent up front so the contractor can calculate the extra effort in the bid.
how can i make something apparent that i never ever would have thought someone wouldnt do though, and im not the only person out there that thinks this, i have an office of about 11 people who clearly thought it was ridiculous that they didnt remove the hardware, 2 were upset at painters they hired for the same things. (and yes sometimes business is slow and we sit around and talk trash about stuff)

so its obvious that the painter should really probably point these things out. and that if its not now, should probably be industry standard.

if you really want to get into it.

when i say i want this painted, lets say, i want the door jambs painted.

where in that sentence did i say NOT to paint the area behind the hinges and hardware. WHERE.

that is part of the door jamb. PERIOD

the painter should reply "now do you want us to remove this hardware and paint behind it" or " you are going to need to remove the hard ware or we will have to charge extra"

so if your a professional painter not asking those questions and ASSUMING the home owner didnt mean to paint this stuff......then i am bashing you, sorry, but i am. that is ridiculous.

if you clearly point this out, then awesome, your probably a great professional painter.

and if you dont, i would really consider you do when you go into someones home to paint, if anything it would make your customer feel more confident. just something to think about
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Old 04-02-2011, 04:39 PM   #63
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I finally get Pretzles' problem. He expects people to do MORE than industry standard without being paid more 'cause he thinks it's lazy if they do not.

Guess that makes just about every person who expects to get paid for the job they do 'lazy' for not going above-and-beyond for free.

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not at all, in any way.

I have set no limit on what to pay for painting, or anything else. I would have spent double, even triple. I clearly didnt take the cheapest bid. (well clear to me)

if the painter told me it cost more to do these things when he showed up to work, i would have been like "whatever it takes" i wouldnt even have asked the price.

so you can ignore this whole idea. its just plain wrong.
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Why didn’t you just get rid of them the first day?

I occasionally hire subs site unseen and if their not up par on day one their gone, just that simple.

You speak of what a perfectionist painter you are why would you let them hack on your house?
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Why didnít you just get rid of them the first day?

I occasionally hire subs site unseen and if their not up par on day one their gone, just that simple.

You speak of what a perfectionist painter you are why would you let them hack on your house?
well i let them come back because he gave excuses, and i wanted to give them a chance to fix/finish, and it worked for the most part, because it all finally got done decently, (except the orange doors). People always get so hot headed, i figured you give some one at least one chance to fix things.

from the way i see it, if you dont give them one chance to fix it, then your pretty much accept paying them what was agreed upon. if the mess it up again, you have a right to argue about payment.

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