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AbbyTeters 10-24-2007 11:36 AM

Already painted latex over high gloss, looks terrible, help!
 
Okay, when we moved into our house last year we just went ahead and painted 1 coat of store brand primer and then 2 coats of latex eggshell paint over a high gloss paint in our master bathroom. It still looks terrible. While the paint is not actually chipping anywhere, it looks like there are cracks all over it. The old paint is dark blue, and the new is a light golden. I want to try to remedy it this weekend. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I am not sure if sanding the latex paint at this point would help or not, or if Kilz would do it.

Workaholic 10-24-2007 11:49 AM

When you painted over the gloss did you scuff sand, and then clean?

AbbyTeters 10-24-2007 11:52 AM

No, I did not. I am not an experienced painter, and I did not even think about the fact that I would have to prepare that room any differently than I did any of the other rooms with the latex paint.

We only primed with Lowe's brand primer, and then painted over it.

poppameth 10-24-2007 02:19 PM

The primer is most likely the issues. Get yourself some Zinsser 1-2-3 next time.

AbbyTeters 10-24-2007 02:59 PM

Thanks! I went to the Zinsser website, and that looks like what I need. I will prime with that, and then paint again.

send_it_all 10-24-2007 03:02 PM

I would recommend getting additional advice from the painters on this board on proper prep before just priming over what you have. Sounds like you probably need to at least scrape any loose material, scuff sand and clean before you do anything.

AbbyTeters 10-24-2007 03:06 PM

I will leave it open for a while, and see if anyone else knows what I should do.......There is really nothing to scrape in my case. The latex paint that is already on the wall is really stuck on there well. There is nothing loose in any way. I could sand it, but since I would really just be sanding the latex paint, I was not sure if that would really do anything. Thoughts? I would like to do it right this time, so that there is no more corrections! :yes:

slickshift 10-24-2007 10:43 PM

Normally I'm not one to recommend more than a light scuff sanding with a sanding screen when the substrate (whats there now) is firmly adhering, but as you have the crackles, I would consider running a sander over the surface just in case
Nothing major, but a quick going over just to be on the safe side

Then the Zinsser 1-2-3 would be a good idea
...and I'm not normally one to recommend priming for re-paints, but I would here

For future reference, the primer, and paint, at the big boxes leaves a lot to be desired
I strongly recommend going to an actual Paint Store for paint supplies, tools, and advice

Also Kilz is a stain blocker, not a good "adhesion" primer
There's a difference
And Original Kilz (oil-based) is the only Kilz that works well...for spot blocking stains
The other Kilz (latex/Kilz2) have high failure rates and are poor even at blocking stains

1-2-3 and some good (premium line) Ben Moore, Sherwin Williams, Pittsburgh, or California and you should be good

Workaholic 10-25-2007 07:56 AM

Yes i would lightly sand, then reprime with the bin. In the future if you come across goss, semi-gloss, eggshell, or satin a good scuff sand and cleaning willl save this kind of added work.

AbbyTeters 10-25-2007 08:38 AM

Yes, the paint in the room is a high quality Devoe Paint. We just did not really spend the money on the primer not knowing the difference.


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