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HT4Me 05-05-2013 09:06 PM

Airless Paint Sprayers
 
All,

I am in the planning phase of finishing a 1900 square foot basement. Because of the amount of wall and ceiling area, I have decided to purchase an airless sprayer. I do not want to spend over $400 though because after this project is complete, I do not foresee using it again. I am leaning towards the Wagner 0525029 EZ Tilt Power Painter Pro; however, I have heard good and bad about this company.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

~HT4ME

jettlash84 05-05-2013 09:14 PM

Hi!, I actually just posted a topic on this, but I too wanted something relatively inexpensive. So far I've been happy with the Wagner ProCoat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhrzYmNOFrI

Hope this helps!:thumbsup:

Gymschu 05-05-2013 09:31 PM

There are literally dozens of threads on this very topic.........If you use the SEARCH function you will uncover oodles of useful info.

An example: http://www.diychatroom.com/f4/what-b...sprayer-50443/

user1007 05-05-2013 09:34 PM

Rent a high end sprayer if you are only going to use it for this one project. Otherwise buy something nice enough you can get your money out of it on Craig's List or eBay when you are done. Few are going to race to buy a used Wagner sprayer that sold new for under $300-400!

You might see what is out there on eBay and CL yourself? Buy it, use it, turn around and sell it.

Do not underestimate the time and material needed to mask everything off. Plan on chasing the spray with a roller anyhow.

If you are leaving the basement ceiling open, a sprayer makes some sense and might be the way to prime and paint it. If not and you are priming and painting drywall you may find a large roller just as fast. Color changes will be more easily accomplished with brush and roller also. And then there is whatever trim you pick which you will probably want to do with a brush.

HT4Me 05-05-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsester (Post 1173378)
Rent a high end sprayer if you are only going to use it for this one project. Otherwise buy something nice enough you can get your money out of it on Craig's List or eBay when you are done. Few are going to race to buy a used Wagner sprayer! Wagner is a consumer, not a pro brand.

Do not underestimate the time and material needed to mask everything off. Plan on chasing the spray with a roller anyhow.

If you are leaving the basement ceiling open, a sprayer makes some sense and might be the way to prime and paint it. If not and you are priming and painting drywall you may find a large roller just as fast. Color changes will be more easily accomplished with brush and roller also. And then there is whatever trim you pick which you will probably want to do with a brush.

Sdsester,

Thanks for the great information. I had not considered renting this tool as an option. Because I am only going to use it for this application, rental makes perfect sense. You indicated I should rent a high end sprayer. Do you have any suggestions? I am clueless as to whats available and what would work best for my project.

Thanks,

HT4ME

user1007 05-05-2013 10:02 PM

You might check your local tool rental place or a paint store that rents sprayers to see what options are availed you.

I have actually not done that much spraying myself so let's hope one of the pros that does spraying on a regular basis will see your post and make recommendations. I have rented Graco equipment on occassion but that's what the store had.

I did just look on eBay and saw a factory refurbished Wagner with warranty like the one the prior poster liked for $80 including shipping. Price makes me nervous and most Wanger stuff looks like it is mostly total plastic fantastic. I still think you would be better renting better equipment but thought I would mention it. I guess for $80 you could unload the thing to Habitat and take the tax deduction when you were done if you could not sell it again.

Here is another current thread to look over.

http://www.diychatroom.com/f4/best-a...-300-a-178063/

Jmayspaint 05-05-2013 10:09 PM

A small graco would be a good rental option. They seem to be pretty common rentals, they

HT4Me 05-05-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmayspaint (Post 1173423)
A small graco would be a good rental option. They seem to be pretty common rentals, they

Jmayspaint,

Thanks. I have seen allot of posts that indicate Graco is a good brand. On one post, the author of a response suggested this one:

https://www.cjspray.com/products/rec...er-262800.html

What do you think? Will this handle the size (large) of my project? I like the price: $199.00. I am leaning towards rental if good equipment costs more than $300. I expect the total time to do the actual painting will be 2 days.

Thanks,

~HT4ME

HT4Me 05-05-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsester (Post 1173412)
You might check your local tool rental place or a paint store that rents sprayers to see what options are availed you.

I have actually not done that much spraying myself so let's hope one of the pros that does spraying on a regular basis will see your post and make recommendations. I have rented Graco equipment on occassion but that's what the store had.

I did just look on eBay and saw a factory refurbished Wagner with warranty like the one the prior poster liked for $80 including shipping. Price makes me nervous and most Wanger stuff looks like it is mostly total plastic fantastic. I still think you would be better renting better equipment but thought I would mention it. I guess for $80 you could unload the thing to Habitat and take the tax deduction when you were done if you could not sell it again.

Here is another current thread to look over.

http://www.diychatroom.com/f4/best-a...-300-a-178063/

sdsester,

Thanks for doing the research and providing me a link for that discussion. :) There really are allot of options: buy new, buy refurbished, rent. Based on the information you provided, I am probably going to rent unless there is a good enough product out there for under $300.

~HT4ME

Jmayspaint 05-05-2013 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HT4Me

Jmayspaint,

Thanks. I have seen allot of posts that indicate Graco is a good brand. On one post, the author of a response suggested this one:

https://www.cjspray.com/products/rec...er-262800.html

What do you think? Will this handle the size (large) of my project? I like the price: $199.00. I am leaning towards rental if good equipment costs more than $300. I expect the total time to do the actual painting will be 2 days.

Thanks,

~HT4ME

I couldn't get to the link, but I use a graco 395. I think it's about the smallest pump that would meet my needs. If you are going to be back rolling its not as big of an issue, but you do need a decent amount of pressure to spray drywall evenly.
A 295 would probably be sufficient for your project.
Titan is similar to graco, also good. The 295 Titan at lowes is pretty cheap.

firehawkmph 05-06-2013 08:43 AM

HT,
if you do use an airless sprayer, you need to have somebody follow you around with a wet roller to backroll the walls and ceilings if the ceilings are smooth. This will leave you with an even texture on the surface. If you don't, the areas of the drywall that aren't taped will come out feeling rough compared to the areas that have joint compound on them. Much like grain being raised on wood. It does go quick. When I built a 3500 s.f. ranch for a buddy of mine years ago, we primed all the drywall by spraying in about 5 hours. This is with some high ceilings involved also. Went through over 55 gallons of paint.
When I finish off basement now, I don't use my sprayer. I am normally by myself at the painting stage and find that in a few hours, I can roll a coat on and have less cleanup.
Mike Hawkins:)

HT4Me 05-06-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firehawkmph (Post 1173611)
HT,
if you do use an airless sprayer, you need to have somebody follow you around with a wet roller to backroll the walls and ceilings if the ceilings are smooth. This will leave you with an even texture on the surface. If you don't, the areas of the drywall that aren't taped will come out feeling rough compared to the areas that have joint compound on them. Much like grain being raised on wood. It does go quick. When I built a 3500 s.f. ranch for a buddy of mine years ago, we primed all the drywall by spraying in about 5 hours. This is with some high ceilings involved also. Went through over 55 gallons of paint.
When I finish off basement now, I don't use my sprayer. I am normally by myself at the painting stage and find that in a few hours, I can roll a coat on and have less cleanup.
Mike Hawkins:)

Thanks for the tip Mike. I had picked up this fact from other DIY Chatrooms as well. My plan is to have my wife follow me around as I paint to ensure the walls and ceilings are smooth with no inconsistencies. It may be the other way around with me holding the roller as she may want to play with our new toy! :laughing:

~HT4ME

firehawkmph 05-07-2013 12:08 PM

Ht,
one other thing: When you use the sprayer, get yourself a few throwaway tyvek suits, thin hoods for your head, and safety glasses. Watch where you point the nozzle. The paint can come out of there at around 3000 psi, which will inject itself right under your skin and wreak a lot of havoc. Not too many hospitals geared for treating this type of injury. As with anything, respect the tools and the process and you should be fine. Different tips will spray different thicknesses of paint along with altering the width of the path. Talk to the place where you are renting from for proper instruction (hopefully). When you're are done, take a bucket of soapy water to rinse the hoses and gun out with. Don't forget to clean the outside of everything too. Scotchbrite pad and soapy water work well. There is an easy way to reclaim the paint that is trapped in the hose also. When you are done painting, take the dip tube out of the paint bucket and put it in a bucket of clean water. Take the tip off the nozzle so when you pull the trigger you will get a squirt gun type stream without the accompanying pressure. Shoot the stream back into the paint bucket and stop as soon as you see the paint stream change to water. Then mix some liquid dishwashing soap into the water bucket and spray a few gallons through the gun to clean the hoses and internals out. Do it outside of course.
Mike Hawkins:)

HT4Me 05-07-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firehawkmph (Post 1174360)
Ht,
one other thing: When you use the sprayer, get yourself a few throwaway tyvek suits, thin hoods for your head, and safety glasses. Watch where you point the nozzle. The paint can come out of there at around 3000 psi, which will inject itself right under your skin and wreak a lot of havoc. Not too many hospitals geared for treating this type of injury. As with anything, respect the tools and the process and you should be fine. Different tips will spray different thicknesses of paint along with altering the width of the path. Talk to the place where you are renting from for proper instruction (hopefully). When you're are done, take a bucket of soapy water to rinse the hoses and gun out with. Don't forget to clean the outside of everything too. Scotchbrite pad and soapy water work well. There is an easy way to reclaim the paint that is trapped in the hose also. When you are done painting, take the dip tube out of the paint bucket and put it in a bucket of clean water. Take the tip off the nozzle so when you pull the trigger you will get a squirt gun type stream without the accompanying pressure. Shoot the stream back into the paint bucket and stop as soon as you see the paint stream change to water. Then mix some liquid dishwashing soap into the water bucket and spray a few gallons through the gun to clean the hoses and internals out. Do it outside of course.
Mike Hawkins:)

Mike,

I have made a decision: you need to come over and help! :laughing: Thanks for the information again. You appear to have a great deal of knowledge in this arena. I appreciate your expertise.

~HT4ME


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