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Old 03-30-2013, 03:14 PM   #1
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I'm about to paint and prime my bathroom and had a question. I was going to prime with Zinsser 1-2-3 and then apply BM bath and spa to the walls.

I've been reading that people like to use Zinsser Perma-White for the ceilings... Should I just use Perma-White on the whole room then BM on the side walls?

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You can use the BM on the walls and ceiling if you want.It's the sheen that gives the paint it's moisture resistance.It doesn't have to be a "bath" paint specifically, any quality paint with a sheen would suffice but the BM bath paint is a good choice.

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Its all new drywall, so I need to prime / seal it first. Any suggestions on 123 vs perma white for the primer choice?
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Prime it all with the 123 for sure
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Perfect. Great timing. I was just about to head to HD!! 1-2-3 it is!!

I'll be posting the primed walls in the bathroom demo thread!
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Perfect. Great timing. I was just about to head to HD!! 1-2-3 it is!!

I'll be posting the primed walls in the bathroom demo thread!
My bathroom is 123 and perma-white interior mold and mildew resistant eggshell. It still looks good.

Bathrooms are high moisture areas. Thus mold and mildew resistant paint is the way to go. I'm going to assume perma-white is cheaper then bm kitchen and bath. You can't go wrong either way.

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747 -- Did you 123 your walls and then Perma-white your ceiling? That was my original thought...
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747 -- Did you 123 your walls and then Perma-white your ceiling? That was my original thought...
yes 123 everything then i used perma-white on walls and ceiling in eggshell.

Bulleyes 123 interior exterior primer sealer

Zinsser perma-white interior mold and mildew resistant.
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As to mildew resistant paint, if your bath has no history of mildew, it's unnecessary. Not every bath environment is prone to mildew, and if yours isn't it's not likely to start now, unless you use a linseed oil based paint, take out your window/fan, or change your behavior drastically.

As to flat versus sheen in a bath. If you happen to live in a house for years that has a builder's flat paint on the bath ceiling, the trend in new construction, and it hasn't been damaged by steam after all these years, you don't need to repaint with a sheen like satin. Unless you're upping it from a shower to a sauna, what has worked in the past will suffice in the future. You'll be more than covered with a conventional, non-bath specific eggshell.

As to mixing sheen levels in one room. It's standard to have a flat ceiling and sheen walls in a regular room. But you don't want a higher sheen on a ceiling than you have on the walls. If you're going to put BM Bath and Spa, a matte finish, on the walls, you don't want Perma White, a satin, on the ceiling. Use one or the other in white and color, as opposed to mixing which will create a funky look.

BTW, and let's stir up a hornet's nest. BM Aura Bath and Spa is marketed as a paint and primer in one, all Aura paint is for that fact. I've hammered BM people at all levels about that claim, and they stand unequivocally and adamantly behind that claim. I've used it as such with great results. There's no flash after two coats and it passed my tape test for adhesion. It's looks great. I know it's a controversial subject here, and against old school thought, but we have to change as technology advances. It doesn't mean I throw my hat in with ALL paint and primer claims. Sooo, back off Jack, lol.

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I absolutely hate Zinsser Perma-White paint. Every time I have used it the cut never looks like the roll. Most recently was this summer doing some bathrooms in a dorm. 2 coats of white over existing white and it still didn't look right. It's like it lacks the propper pigment.

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