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Old 05-03-2011, 03:29 PM   #16
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It takes money to make money. Unfortunately, some charities take too much money. In defense of all of them though, I offer the following scenarios/examples:

The volunteer group of people who hate that bad thing collect $300,000 a year. After operating overheads (mailings, etc), $250,000 goes to fighting the bad thing. Later, they hire a small professional staff at a costs $200,000 a year. Overhead increases slightly to have a total operating cost of $275,000. However, they are now able to raise $600,000 a year. Now they are able to contribute $325,000 to fight the bad thing. Although this is only 54% of the money collected, it is more money to fight the cause than 83% of the old way.

In another example, you cannot look at only one year to see what % is donated. Like any business (charities are businesses), some years you need to have significant capital expenses in order to have higher profits in the following years. If Charity for Good is able to give $50,000 at 90% of monies collected to the cause every year, they could go on like that forever. However, they are limited by the number of vans they have for collection. Next year, they buy 2 more vans and only have $10K to give to the cause. In the future years, however, they can now collect and donate $75K to the cause - a much better situation for the long run. It looks bad when you just look at the past year that they only gave 10K, however.

Vehicles, buildings, advertising promotions all cost money. As it takes money to make money, be sure you deeply look into all that the charity does and not just what they did last year or the last two years.

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Old 05-03-2011, 03:29 PM   #17
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- I've given money to Heifer, International. I like the mission and the way the company is run. Buy a goat, rabbit, chicken, cow for sustainable improvement for a community.
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That's brutal. Nobody (in charity) needs a salary more then 100k... even that is crazy especially for what should be a non profit org.

I have zero respect for ANY CEO and high end manager pencil pusher that makes 100's of thousands a year. It's the workers that do the actual work...

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Old 05-03-2011, 04:21 PM   #19
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well atleast its real charity and not the bogus made up charity that we get taxed to fund .
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:23 PM   #20
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That's brutal. Nobody needs a salary more then 100k... even that is crazy especially for what should be a non profit org.

I have zero respect for ANY CEO and high end manager pencil pusher that makes 100's of thousands a year. It's the workers that do the actual work...

well obviously the workers disagree with you .
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:28 PM   #21
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I have zero respect for ANY CEO and high end manager pencil pusher that makes 100's of thousands a year. It's the workers that do the actual work...
While the workers do the actual work, without direction, management, and leadership they can't accomplish as significant a profit for the company. If companies could make the the same amount of revenue without paying high salaries - wouldn't they?
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:07 PM   #22
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The Salvation Army is the ONLY charity I will donate to. They are almost first to aid in disaster and actually have volunteers going door to door explaining the need for donations. Not sure about what the U.S. has but in Canada they have veterans volunteering time with a donation kettle every Christmas outside of stores and never pressure anybody. They have Sally-Anns all over to recycle clothing, furniture and such. The United Way is a joke, getting corporations to bribe employees into donating with silly contests. These are my personal beefs about charity...

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Kids soccer,baseball or whatever sports organizations whose parents have them hang around in front of liquor stores, grocery stores, etc. driven by a parent in a $90,000 +SUV

Buying products from a store and being asked if I would like to donate $2 to charity and made to feel guilty if I don't. I usually respond with, "I did that yesterday" The sad part is, these companies rely on mass contributions for tax reductions. I once went to a major retail store and they asked for a donation of $2. I said. "Yes, deduct the money from my purchase and donate it"

Being assaulted everytime you want to enter or leave a mall entrance and the only thing they want you to buy are stale chocolate bars left over from what my school, 35 years ago, has in surplus..and why are there still peanuts in these chocolate bars? I thought there was a peanut scare?

Anything to do with starving children in other countries. I am tired of the way these "charities" use celebreties and exploit the poor to make profit. Again, in Canada, we are subjected over and over and over again to Anne Murray's "You needed me" song while showing sad pictures of impoverished children. The fact is, these commercials have been running for years..with the same poor kids. These children are either dead or they are 35 yrs old. Anne Murray should rot in hell for allowing this to happen.



OK, now the good ones...

Students running car washes to support their school

Sponsoring a neighbourhood cleanup program

Students raking leaves for "breakfast for kids" organizations

and of course, the Salvation Army

I would usually include Girl Guides and the cookies they sold, but even their product has gone by the way of cheap manufacturing. They, also, hang around stores because its more convenient. (Don't give me this, "its safer for the kids crap either..its more the laziness to walk a few blocks with your daughter syndrome)

Wish I could say I am glad to get that off my chest, but I"m not. Good topic NAP, glad you brought it up!
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Yes nap, I too am glad you brought it up!

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I'd also like to take this opportunity once again to mention our friends over at freekibble.com and freekibblekat.com who post dog and cat related trivia questions daily that helps provide food to shelter animals waiting to (hopefully) be adopted. (Thanks Mimi! Belated Happy Birthday!) E-mail reminders can be set up so you don't forget to go play every day too! WillieT has another site along the same lines, maybe if we all holler loud enough, he'll hear us and come post the link....

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Geeze. sorry Mouse..my appologies...the whole topic got my blood boiling

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Thanks WillieT! I just gave 'em another .6! Po)

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When I was working I gave money to a few of the many disabled guys that hang out at our freeway on-ramps. Don't know how they got in the shape they're in, but they are single and multiple amputees, There were 5 I passed regularly. on the way to and from work...and I didn't mind droppin' a one or a five or change, or even a bottle of water if I had a spare in the truck. Now unemployed I got a lot of time on my hands...I spend several hours a week at one or the other of our veterans homes,and I do a few hours a week at a local hospital.. I don't give to organized charities...my government gave enough of my money to them without my consent...EOM

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