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imported_Raven 03-08-2005 09:14 PM

Why do you DIY and not employ people?!
 
I'm interested to know why people do work themselves (normally badly!) when they could employ a professional to do it. Most people that do DIY end up wasting more time (and therefore money) learning how to do things themselves. It might cost a bit more to employ someone but it means you can get on with your lives!

So - why do you bother to 'do it yourself' ?

MgMopar 03-11-2005 08:53 AM

Raven

Why would someone so down on DIY even make a post on such a site? I have personally been a DIY on just about everything. I like the challenge and their is a pride on a completed project. Granted many DIY projects of many people do show the inexperience. But that is were a site like this can be so valuable. People can ask someone with some experience and many times the result of the project is much better. The DIY can all so be someone who does hire a professional for a project but takes it on their own to find out enough to make sure the professional they hire is reputable. I have seen some so called professionals, have workmanship that I wouldn't even have in my dog house! just because a professional does it doesn't mean it's better, Does it? What do you do with your time? watch movies, Play Video Games, I work on projects give it a projector,Home theater, house, yard, car, and so on.

PS
The X10 or whatever web based camera systems are also most likely putting security installers and system monitors out of work too. Their are various monitoring systems for the private use. But most web based are in one form or another DIY and are probably not monitored by a professional service.

knowltondata 03-12-2005 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by MgMopar

PS
The X10 or whatever web based camera systems are also most likely putting security installers and system monitors out of work too. Their are various monitoring systems for the private use. But most web based are in one form or another DIY and are probably not monitored by a professional service.
They aren't hurting my work! There will always be commercial accounts where there will never be an employee to DIY it and they have to hire someone... and on the residental side, cameras haven't really done well in that nitche anyhow.

If you're talking about someone monitoring the cameras as a professional service, I don't think anyone could possibly do that and make a profit... most of these remote setups are for an individual who wants to check on the house occasionaly from work or the McD's owner who owns five of them and wants to check on them during the day. Or the imfamous "nanny-watcher"

MgMopar 03-12-2005 10:09 AM

knowltondata

I understand, You are a professional and you do not seemed to be worried about DIY taking your work away from you. I should of first quoted of raven


Quote raven
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Why do you DIY and not employ people?!
I'm interested to know why people do work themselves (normally badly!) when they could employ a professional to do it. Most people that do DIY end up wasting more time (and therefore money) learning how to do things themselves. It might cost a bit more to employ someone but it means you can get on with your lives!

Why do you DIY and not employ people?!

For some reason he doesn't believe the DIY outlook is worth it. I was trying to bring up that it all depends on what level of DIY and I was trying to make a distinction for him that even using such a camera that he inquired on in a previous post, is a form of DIY and to realize DIY is not always bad.

I guess I took his post as an attack on DIY just upset me a little and was bitting back a little?

knowltondata 03-12-2005 09:31 PM

I have had customers who tried to do it themselves and needed rescue, but I've also come across people who called me and I went out there and they were working on it themselves and all I did was give them some advice, my card, and they finished themselves, no-charge advice. A lot of the "it comes out badly" that raven was talking about just need a little direction and I'm happy to give what I do know.

That said, there are many things I DON'T know, but I'll research it till I find an answer.

daman3178 08-08-2005 12:14 AM

I think this Raven guys needs to take a hike!! I just found this site a couple of days ago and I believe this is the best site out there. I love that I can ask a question and there are people out there willing to help. As for DIY, why not learn something new. If you believe you can do it great go for it. I to have hired people to do home project because I didn't have knowledge or time, but I love the feeling when I do something in my house myself. It make me so proud to have people over and they say wow that is cool, who did that for you, and I can say I did!!! SO with that it is worth it eveytime I DO IT MYSELF!!!! Thanks Discussdiy.com!!!!

Andy R 03-10-2006 09:46 PM

Hi Daman, you still about? :)

lorn 03-11-2006 06:33 AM

Its a good question, as someone who doesnt know much about DIY I would love to pay someone to do the work for me, the trouble is who do you trust and do they know what they are doing? Not only that when you do call someone I find that they dont take you serioulsy and either try to rip you off, or they dont come out at all! And end up wasting my time. So I end up having to ask my husband to do it or if he cant do it he has to ask a friend at work if they know anyone.

Sometimes a diy job can be quite small - is it really worth the time and effort looking for someone trustworthy or is it easier to do it yourself if you know you can do it?

Generous 11-04-2006 05:44 PM

I'm a real estate Broker, full time over 40 years, I have bought a lot of houses and rehabbed them, put hundreds of folks to work, fixing them up.
Been ripped off by Handymen, contractors, Had Deposits stolen, had on site materials brought back to the stores for refunds that were stolen, re-roofs that leak, bathrooms butchered. Wasted thousands of dollars redoing projects. It cost $5,000. to rehab a bathroom, because the roofers didn't cap the vent pipe, he saved $10.00 on the job, cost us $5,000. So I had to learn as much as I could about construction, now I watch them like a hawk and catch them cutting corners all the time, Doing improper installations etc. but the jobs are much better and done in a timely manner. DIY? If you hire someone to do it, you better know as much about it as they should otherwise you are saving nothing including your time & piece of mind.
Even if you sue them and win, most are not collectable anyway. Why DIY I have thousands of reasons..

kidd 11-22-2006 11:46 PM

why diy?
 
there are alot of great responses to this subject, and I agree with most of them, I am in the middle of a project myself and was looking for a sight just like this, I will alot of times do ( work for work) type of deal and so far it's worked ok, but they can only do what they know, this is where diy comes in hopefully it will help me to complete it....keep up the good work...

sfixx 02-20-2007 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven
I'm interested to know why people do work themselves (normally badly!) when they could employ a professional to do it. Most people that do DIY end up wasting more time (and therefore money) learning how to do things themselves. It might cost a bit more to employ someone but it means you can get on with your lives!

So - why do you bother to 'do it yourself' ?

That's a good honest question really...probably came from a general contractor.

When we first bought our house 15 years ago the fridge got warm inside. So what do you do? Call the repairman right! Out he comes, for $30 just to walk in the door, he pulls the fridge out and finds a piece of paper has jammed itself in the fan. He ended up billing us $50 for the visit! I don't blame him, his time is money. I felt soooo stupid though. That's the last needless repair man that ever walked in our door I am proud to say. I paid to have a roof put on and the house painted because those jobs are simply too big for one person over a weekend. I'm no Tim Taylor, accident waiting to happen, but sure their is a steep learning curve to actually saving yourself money. I may waste materials, break something or spend money on a tool that gets used maybe once but I can take all the time I need to do the job right. And if I don't like the job that I did, I'll certainly be better at it the second time around. Over time if you keep yourself to the highest standards you can do some real quality work. Bottom line, I love working around the house and shop. If I had an estimate for a job, say $500, the materials cost me $300 and a necessary new power tool for $200...breaking even, I'll do the job myself every time. I'd probably even take a loss just to avoid the hassle of hiring a contractor but mostly for the enjoyment and learning experience. Why do we do it? Because we can!

Steve

daman3178 02-20-2007 11:45 PM

Excellent reply Steve, I can't agree more. I think there is nothing better than someone coming in to my house and asking who did this or that and me replying to them, I did! It is an amazing feeling.

Damon

imported_harryo 11-25-2007 02:09 PM

I'm still waiting for the contractor that I called for a water leak .Well my wife and I got on it and fixed the problem.Those so called handy men that waste money placing adds and don't bother responding.I'm a stroke survivor and between my wife and me we have three hands.I have suffered an occasional burn from the torch while soldering a fitting but we got it done and it makes for an interesting conversation.You know the old saying if there's a will there's away.:D:D PS I enjoy this site very much keep up the good work.

provideurself 12-13-2007 09:45 AM

for me its always knowledge gain with DIY. its nice also to know your way around on things and of course the most important part would be the experience and sharing and telling off to your friends (mostly successful ones):D

jamison_tilne 02-05-2008 06:33 PM

Well... DIY usually means lower cost, a personal sense of satisfaction and accomplishment (provided of course you do succeed), quite often a more speedy result since you don't have to wait, the challenge, and the experience gained. all perfectly valid reasons to prefer DIY.

Of course there are things you shouldn't DIY without professional help, but you'll probably be able to tell at those time what they are.


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