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ssrieke 05-25-2010 07:36 PM

saggy and wrinkling not me my paint
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look at these pix and tell me what you think caused this? This was not a DIY job but a professional company--thx. any ideas on where to obtain an expert witness who can tell me what caused this? paint co. blaming the paint itself vs application and prep work.

housepaintingny 05-25-2010 10:11 PM

Looks like it may be a moisture issue.

ssrieke 05-25-2010 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by housepaintingny (Post 447036)
Looks like it may be a moisture issue.

Moisture from atmosphere or from not allowing first coat to dry properly? Thanks for responding!

housepaintingny 05-25-2010 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by ssrieke (Post 447050)
Moisture from atmosphere or from not allowing first coat to dry properly? Thanks for responding!

Is that concrete that was painted?

oh'mike 05-25-2010 10:44 PM

Looks like an aluminum down spout and some concrete.

Scuba_Dave 05-25-2010 10:55 PM

Moved to Off Topic since not about DIY

boman47k 05-25-2010 11:36 PM

Moisture was my first thought. Was it painted early in the morning or late in the evening (dew)? Washed and painted before it had time to dry?

I'm thinking it was painted early before the dew had a chance to evaporate. That or they washed it and painted it too soon.

I am guessing, as I have never seen anything like that. I have seen bubbles from moisture or may dust but wrinkles......never.

Almost makes me want to experiment to try and replicate that.
I notice the sides of the gutter do not seem to be as wrinkled as the front. Were these surfaces previously painted? If so, were they repainted with the same type of paint?

My experiment would be:

wet some gutter and paint
Paint while dew is still on both surfaces
Maybe paint late in the evening a couple of hours before dew fall (not much faith in that one causing wrinkles}
Roll with a very thick nap on a smooth surface and not spread the paint enough. Same with the concrete that smooth
Maybe paint a dirty/dusty surface
Paint with paint that has been thinned to much.

I have seen paint on the interior sag from being applied too heavy. I have just never seen any wrinkle like that.
Maybe it was applied too thick in an attempt to get by with one coat coverage in direct sun. Maybe the outside dried real quick while the inner paint was still soupy because it was so thick.

Interesting situation, and I hope you let us know what the final reasoning is.

I can't believe it was the paint. See if you can get a rep from the paint store the paint was purchased at to give an opinion in writing.

Have a contract? See there license?

boman47k 05-25-2010 11:41 PM

One more thing I might would try is painting a hot aluminum gutter with a heavy coat of paint.

Marty S. 05-26-2010 07:38 AM

That's from water getting under the latex paint. Have seen the same wrinkels on interior walls many times from leaky pipes or roofs. Actually looks like little water balloons then when the water escapes that's what left.

ssrieke 05-26-2010 10:44 AM

Company is licensed, insured, the whole 9 yards. These are aluminum down spouts and concrete as you said. This is also happening on hardie plank siding also. Sounds like moisture whether dew or bottom layer of paint is the culprit. Paint rep has come out several times but won't give a statement as to cause in writing. Company has said they will fix the problem but should I trust them? They use subs that frankly I don't believe are qualified and/or motivated to do a quality job. Will let you know outcome. Any other suggestions are appreciated. Thx!

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