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Old 05-26-2012, 10:31 AM   #76
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I am not meaning to be adversarial or disrespctful here, buy I take the above text in red a bit personal, as I know better. It appears that you and even WAY too many in the US are seeing what the left hand is doing and not watching the actions of his right hand. .... (metaphorically speaking here)

As a natural born citizen of the USA I have exercised my freedom to get myself informed about anyone running for President of the USA. When BHO filed for his candidacy for President in 2007, I started my due diligence and read and listened to every available source of history on the man that is now the POTUS....

I wanted to KNOW a bit about the man as I wanted to know WHO I may be voting for. I wanted to know where he came from, who he socialized with, his school days, you know, those things that tell a LOT about who a person really is.. . Those searches for me were futile and the nfo at that time was as scarce as hens teeth and still is now 3.5 years later. Does this fact bother anyone else reading this post ?

I will not tire my fingers typing or boring the readers with what I have read and witnessed about BHO. The list of things that has been done by this POTUS that goes against the very grain of patriotism and love for our nation that is felt by us older citizens, is VERY long.....

Our younger populace doesnt know any difference about what is happening to our nation right now, because they are not being taught the true history of America and how it become great.....

They are just doing what the left media is reporting from the Hill, just blame the baby boomers as we have "robbed" the wealth of our nation and left them nothing, blame the one percenters, blame the Tea Partiers, and blame the on and on...

How about teaching our youth how we became a great nation and try to revitalize those attributes ?? We sure as h--ll didnt become great by spewing hate for the rich, racism, and class divisioning...

Ask any young person about their civics classes in school or how our governemnt is run and legislated, and they will look at you like that you have horns. This lack of understanding of what it takes to make and keep a nation great has been taken out of the learning experience for our youngsters. Why ? A uninformed society is one that is a whole lot easier to control after they self destruct their own nation from apathy...


I will just say if one will use their critical thinking skills, true logic and practical thinking along with some deductive reasoning skills, listen to what he says, and see what actions are being taking now to run this nation, they CAN NOT in good consious, agree with what is being stated in red text above. jmo
Ayuh,... Sooooooo True Jeep,...

I'm votin' for Anybody but Obo...

We're well on our way to becomin' Greece II, with Obo, 'n the Liberal Progressives at the helm....

This is the US of A, where yer allowed to prosper as you wish, not to be pampered by the government, at the expense of those who labor, 'n produce...

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Old 05-26-2012, 11:36 AM   #77
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Federal spending under Obama has risen less than anytime in past 60 years.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/may/23/facebook-post-gets-it-right-about-obamas-record-sp/

Annualized growth of Federal Spending:
Reagan 1: 8.7%
Reagan 2: 4.9%
H.W. Bush: 5.4%
Clinton 1: 3.2%
Clinton 2: 3.9%
W. Bush 1: 7.3%
W. Bush 2: 8.1%
Obama 1: 1.4%

Fox News, as usual, tries to spin the numbers differently. In their summary, they came up with an average spending growth of 3%, which may not be the lowest in the past 60 years, but is certainly the lowest in the past 30 years.
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:48 AM   #78
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And how quickly we forget the distastrous state of our economy this current president inherited from President Shrub.
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O.K. if were going to start link posting, we can find anything we want cant we ?


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obam...through-reagan

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I wish it was so simple that we could say "who" caused our economic mess but it is not....

Once again, left tactics - divert the attention from the true facts...


BHO did NOT cause the financial collaspe of 2008. The 2008 crash was caused by poison home loans being shuffled around through the financial network. Why were they poision ? Millions of home loans given to unqualified home buyers...

Why were they given ? Relaxed loan application standards. Who had the hand in relaxing those lax loan standards ? Bill Clinton. He was at the helm when the Feds made the Glass Steagman Act defunct which made ALL financial regulatory/banking institutions at that time hold their loan applicants to the same higher loan qualification standards. ...

Y'all remember back in the 80's/early 90's dont ya ? Those loan qualifications standards like us old guys had to meet back in the 80's when one had to have 20% down, a job for 3 years and a benchmarked debt to income ratio/700 credit score before we even thought about buying a home !

I see ya post Creeps, we did post at the same time.

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Read this this morning thought it quite appropriate

How the Tax System Works

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

The fifth would pay $1.

The sixth would pay $3.

The seventh would pay $7.

The eighth would pay $12.

The ninth would pay $18.

The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20." Drinks for the ten now cost just $80 total.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share? They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).

The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).

The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).

The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 ( 25% savings).

The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 ( 22% savings).

The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,"but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
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Hold on a minute If you want to speak in terms of logic.

The global economic crisis began in 2007 and really in earnest in 2008. If Obama didn't come to office until Nov. 2008 then your logisitics are messed up

He could not possibly have done the damage. The timelines are simply not there. It just doesn't add up

Jeeps we must have posted at the same time, I didn't see your post

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Having owned 2 businesses at the time, I can tell you, at least for us, the downturn started Sept.11, 2001. My books show a steady increase until that date and a steady decrease after. So I don't blame either party or any president.
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I know you're dying to to dish your opinion. Who do you honestly think is going to win? And why?
I think the encumbent POTUS will win the election in November of 2012.

Although he has been proven to be unqualified for the position he has been appointed to, he has behind him my list of what it takes to stay in the oval office.

1. The known power of being the encumbent POTUS is hard to overcome.

2. He has outstanding charisma, personality and magnetic speaking powers, unlike his contender Mitt Romney who is a great guy and all and knows how to run a economy, but dude, like, like, he has the appeal of a wart.

3. THe POTUS has the financial support of all those super rich contributors who were mysteriously behind him in 2008 ( he nailed close to a billion dollars in campaign contributions in 2007). Plus, those in the US like Mr. Clooney and most of his Hollyweird friends are giving him $45,000 a plate contribution dinners.. $15 mil in one dining event. Man, thats living righteous !

4. He is the super salesman of political strategies like we Americans have never witnessed. I would like to own a ice cube store in the Antartica and have him sell bags of ice for me.

5. He will go to any lengths to assure his win in November. He has the tenacity of a pit bull and the support of a populace that doesnt want him unseated for fear of losing what he has given them.

6. Americans over the passed years have become "dumbed down" and we dont really care who is POTUS, it is way too much trouble to get off of our fat azzes and go vote anyway. And to expect us to actually search for facts and use common sense to determine what kind of job our POTUS is doing ??? What? Just leave the man alone and give him the time he needs to get his plan implemented.. 8 years will do it.

Besides, all we have to do is turn on the tube and get a constant barrage of mindless debauchery, reality drama, male bashing, and then as a bonus we even get the FACTS about how our POTUS is doing from our news media ? How great is that ? Only in America, Only in America...

Oh, Yeah, Baby, we got it made ! The man is doing a great job of running this nation from what I can tell, if I get to see the news before the Bad Girls IV or the New Somewhere Housewives come on .

I think that I am going to get ill now because after reading my attempt at wit and humor above, it is so close to the truth, I want to go puke. jmo
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Check out the "Bilderberg Group". They want a global economy. Clinton, Obama, both Bushes and Reagan were members. Romney's father was, so he probably is also. So it really won't matter who is elected.
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Check out the "Bilderberg Group". They want a global economy. Clinton, Obama, both Bushes and Reagan were members. Romney's father was, so he probably is also. So it really won't matter who is elected.
Been there done that already. We are all puppets on a very long string.
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I've been registered Independent since 1972 and every election cycle reminds me why.....
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I've been registered Independent since 1972 and every election cycle reminds me why.....
Every a time that you feel like you missed out on putting a vote in that may have counted ?
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You're making a ridiculous assumption about my voting habits.

A little study of history might help you understand my disdain for party politics. Start with George Washington's "farewell address".
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I wholeheartly agree with you, put the dems and reps in a can and shake them and when they fall out, one cant tell the difference. I think we are all, regardless of party affiliation, in the big screwed boat now anyway. jmo

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