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Old 12-16-2012, 09:57 AM   #46
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Please indicate where I have disputed such reality... Have you read this post? I'm talking about PATENTED SEED plants. Not the stuff your parents/grandparents had. They were first patented/released in 1996 and the amount of crop types under patent is growing and I think 2008 showed us how much corporate interest is good for the consumer.
Honestly, your posts are largely meandering ravings of a crazy person, so I'm not sure what your point is.


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That's why it's a personal choice to buy them. I look at it as the extra $$ is a vote for my position.
What's the point of this thread if it's just about personal decision?


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Theoretically, why couldn't you? Obviously people don't and won't, hence the large farms. But to say it couldn't isn't truthful.
Wait, you're serious? Why couldn't you grow food for the entire population using backyard gardens? You realize this isn't 400 A.D., right? Have you ever been out of the Connecticut valley in your life? No, not everyone lives in a place or climate that is conducive to growing their own food, and everyone growing their own food is not conducive to a society that progresses, or does anything but farm.

Even pretending that everyone COULD grow their own food - and you can certainly question the intelligence of living somewhere where it's difficult to impossible to grow food, as Sam Kinison once brilliantly pointed out - the reason we don't all grow our own food is so that we can focus our efforts on other aspects of society. From scientific discovery to joy and entertainment... if you'd like us to move back to the days where everyone woke up with the sun, tilled the fields until sundown, and died without ever really leaving the farm, I welcome you to try, but don't suggest that the world would be better for it.

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Old 12-17-2012, 06:31 PM   #47
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Honestly, your posts are largely meandering ravings of a crazy person, so I'm not sure what your point is.
Meandering ravings of a crazy person...don't know what the point is...really? Sounds like you're now trolling this post...


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What's the point of this thread if it's just about personal decision?
This post has been political since post #1. Since politics is opinion, not quite sure why you're surprised now...again, trolling?


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Wait, you're serious? Why couldn't you grow food for the entire population using backyard gardens? You realize this isn't 400 A.D., right? Have you ever been out of the Connecticut valley in your life? No, not everyone lives in a place or climate that is conducive to growing their own food, and everyone growing their own food is not conducive to a society that progresses, or does anything but farm.
Guess you missed the "theoretically" part...trolling...

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Even pretending that everyone COULD grow their own food - and you can certainly question the intelligence of living somewhere where it's difficult to impossible to grow food, as Sam Kinison once brilliantly pointed out - the reason we don't all grow our own food is so that we can focus our efforts on other aspects of society. From scientific discovery to joy and entertainment... if you'd like us to move back to the days where everyone woke up with the sun, tilled the fields until sundown, and died without ever really leaving the farm, I welcome you to try, but don't suggest that the world would be better for it.
All of the above is pretty obvious...again it was "theoretically"...trolling...
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Ayuh,.... Seems to me, you just have a problem with yer preconceived notions against the legal structure of our Society of Laws...

In the on goin' growth of our Society of Laws, people have had to hire Lawyers to form corporations to protect their holdings from bein' stolen by other Lawyers, through lawsuits...

Because of the progression of our Society of Laws, now that plants can actually be Identified, genetically, patents are a Legal protection of what was created...

Corporations, are owned by People ya know,...
you're correct they have a right to patent a customized product. I will revise the wording of con #8.

With their ability to patent a plant, propogating the land with it and overtaking the "free" kinds through genetic superiority...that's called monopolizing, and last I checked monopolies weren't a good thing for the consumer, hence the con list #9.
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Please keep future posts relevant to the topic at hand. Pros/Cons of patented GMOs. Calling me crazy and any other descriptors you consider relevant, without providing a valid pro/con for post #1 will be considered trolling...
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Meandering ravings of a crazy person...don't know what the point is...really? Sounds like you're now trolling this post...


This post has been political since post #1. Since politics is opinion, not quite sure why you're surprised now...again, trolling?


Guess you missed the "theoretically" part...trolling...

All of the above is pretty obvious...again it was "theoretically"...trolling...
I am most certainly not trolling, I just find your posts to be nonsensical ravings that make distinctions that don't exist.

You are already allowed to eat whatever the **** you want. I don't know why you think you need a thread on a message board to talk you out of it. Please, continue to eat all organic foods. You're still gonna die at some point, most likely within the same general timeframe as everyone who is eating GMO and pesticide-laden foods.

And theoretically? What does that even mean in this context? Does it mean you can say whatever you want and I can't call you out for it being wrong? Theoretically all food can be grown on the moon. Sure, it can't, but i said theoretically, so... neener neener boo boo.

All food for our current population can NOT be grown in a backyard garden. It is impossible, in theory and in fact. Whether all food for this planet could be grown organically could be disputed, but I have serious doubts that we could afford to feed the world's population without taking "shortcuts" with regards to pesticides and whatnot. Truly organic foods are more expensive because they are harder to grow and the yields are far, far lower. Fact.
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.....feed the world's population without taking "shortcuts" with regards to pesticides and whatnot. Truly organic foods are more expensive because they are harder to grow and the yields are far, far lower. Fact.
Conventional pesticide farming is not the topic here. And Organics are more expensive with less yield, indeed fact. Do you have a point for the pros/cons list? Or ya just trolling?
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OK, what the heck is trolling?
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OK, what the heck is trolling?
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OK, what the heck is trolling?
A word AGWhitehouse doesn't undersatnd, along with "theoretically."

My posts may not be polite but they are on topic and truly trying to get a legit response.

Responding by calling me a troll, ironically, is trolling.
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A word AGWhitehouse doesn't undersatnd, along with "theoretically."
It is quite clear who doesn't understand "theoretically"...

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My posts may not be polite but they are on topic and truly trying to get a legit response.
Really? And where have you made points for that pros/cons list? You haven't, so you've been looking for a legit response to what? The non-post-topics that organic farming is more expensive than conventional? Or course it is... That backyard farming won't save the world? Of course it won't... That driving your car has an inherent risk just like eating does? Of course it does... Any other off-topic (troll-worthy) points?

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Responding by calling me a troll, ironically, is trolling.
Never knew it was possible to troll your own post...haha

So, anything to add to the pros/cons list on PATENTED GMOs?
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This is a public forum. It doesn't matter whose post it is, you're asking for group feedback on the topic you brought up. Just because it doesn't specifically conform to your exact specifications doesn't make it trolling. If you ask a public forum for opinions they're not always going to be formatted to your liking. That doesn't make them off-topic, and certainly doesn't make them trolling. Once you submit your post the thread becomes part of the forum, not "your own thread."

General questions spawn conversations about the topic at hand. Sorry that that obviously makes you so upset.
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Yes, Moderator do please kill this thread. The baseline topic is obviously too much for some to comprehend and intelligently debate on and result is an endless (and pointless) array of posts that serve no earthly purpose.
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This is a public forum. It doesn't matter whose post it is, you're asking for group feedback on the topic you brought up. Just because it doesn't specifically conform to your exact specifications doesn't make it trolling. If you ask a public forum for opinions they're not always going to be formatted to your liking. That doesn't make them off-topic, and certainly doesn't make them trolling. Once you submit your post the thread becomes part of the forum, not "your own thread."

General questions spawn conversations about the topic at hand. Sorry that that obviously makes you so upset.
And yet another post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. You're a special one aren't you?
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Name calling is against forum rules. If you guys want the thread to go away, don't post any more and it will fade away.

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