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DUDE! 11-29-2008 11:39 AM

Fuel oil price
 
got first delivery of the season the other day, $2.99 a gallon. thought I would make the rest of the country feel better, its usually higher here in the north east. Also, gas is down to $1.89 a gallon.

jerryh3 11-29-2008 01:17 PM

I bought mine at the wrong time. I thought early fall would have been the best time and this was when they thought oil prices were still going to rise, so I filled my tank. 3.63 a gallon. Now it's 2.41.

buletbob 11-29-2008 03:43 PM

filled up one tank three weeks ago and paid 2.22gal. COD. no contract.

skymaster 11-29-2008 10:35 PM

2.35 on automatic delivery program and gas tonight 2.65 Shell reg. Some off brands ( Delta) at 2.61

Nestor_Kelebay 11-29-2008 10:56 PM

What we SHOULD be doing during this time is pushing hard to develop new alternative sources of energy. The price of gasoline and heating oil is going to eventually go higher, and we don't want to be caught unprepared for it. Unfortunately, as long as fuel is thought of as "cheap", there won't be the incentive to develop alternatives like there was a year or so ago.

We need to use this time of reduced oil prices to develop alternative sources of energy so that they will be available when we need them.

DUDE! 11-30-2008 08:25 AM

http://www.chevrolet.com/fuelcell/ Didn't get to see it but a local dealer had one at the lot to test drive, won't be ready for another 6-7 yrs, as with other alternaltives, has pro's and con's.

Kap 11-30-2008 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DUDE! (Post 191674)
http://www.chevrolet.com/fuelcell/ Didn't get to see it but a local dealer had one at the lot to test drive, won't be ready for another 6-7 yrs, as with other alternaltives, has pro's and con's.

That alone should justify the bail out-with the stipulation they proceed full bore on that project.

buletbob 11-30-2008 12:39 PM

what ever happened to those two people who took a volkswagen rabbit and worked it to get 100mpg. back around the 70's any older fellas remember reading that, I believe they were from FLA.

kbsparky 11-30-2008 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by skymaster (Post 191590)
2.35 on automatic delivery program and gas tonight 2.65 Shell reg. Some off brands ( Delta) at 2.61

THose gas prices are about a dollar a gallon higher than surrounding areas.

Are you sure it wasn't $1.61 a gallon up there?

Nestor_Kelebay 11-30-2008 02:05 PM

I'd like to see a lot more research on lithium ion rechargeable batteries for cars. NO ONE needs to be driving a gasoline powered car three miles to the office every morning and three miles home in the afternoon. That is well within the range of electric cars.

Also, even though you hardly ever hear the word any more, most of the air pollution produced by a car is produced as the engine is warming up, and that takes a few miles at least. So, if you drive 3 miles to work and 3 miles back, the pollution control equipment on your car is just extra weight because it does no good until the engine reaches it's normal operating temperature.

We have the technology to produce battery powered cars, and there's plenty of instances where people don't really need anything more than a battery powered car to get around in a city. If we develop battery powered cars, we would also be creating demand for electricity production, and that's something we can produce plenty of in North America. We don't have to import that at a cost of 500 billion dollars per year.

The problem is that most people are completely unaware of the fact that an internal combustion engine only utilizes about 10 percent of the energy contained in gasoline. Most of the energy is converted into heat, and most of that heat is wasted. It is transferred to the air via the radiator and exhaust system. There is tremendous potential to improve gas mileage by utilizing that heat, but as long as fuel was cheap there was no effort to find ways to utilize it.

Despite the fact that fuel prices have come down, we should still be pressing forward to find alternative energy sources. Until we do, the US and potentially Canada and Mexico will be dependant on foreign governments to provide us with the fuel we need. That's not a good situation.

richardbrickie 12-01-2008 12:22 PM

it just keeps going doing whoop whoop

PaulAdman 12-04-2008 06:00 AM

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sharon333 12-15-2008 05:08 PM

I like how the prices have begun to fall again.

nperkins 12-26-2008 06:35 PM

I need to call on Monday and see how much its dropped... I put 125 gallons in 2 months ago... At $3.69 a gallon... :(

Wethead 12-26-2008 07:54 PM

Not no more , IN NYC , its down to under $2 :)


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