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Old 06-25-2009, 03:03 PM   #16
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[SIGH] Of the four people who came out to give us roofing estimates we got our first today. BTW we are not considering asphalt because we have NO roof venting and installing it would be highly complex. For either synthetic slate or metal install they are estimating 4-5 weeks of work.

For Faux Slate: $69K
For Metal Standing Seam: $64K

Roofer said he would be happy to break the price into parts and labor for us. I was expecting this roofer to be on the high end because he has a sterling reputation, doesn't subcontract, does quality work...

BUT. WOW. I don't really know what to say. WOW.

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For Faux Slate: $69K
For Metal Standing Seam: $64K

BUT. WOW. I don't really know what to say. WOW.
All I can say is WOW too. That is a jaw dropper of a price.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:43 PM   #18
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I know what to say..OUCH!!!!
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:31 PM   #19
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[SIGH] Of the four people who came out to give us roofing estimates we got our first today. BTW we are not considering asphalt because we have NO roof venting and installing it would be highly complex. For either synthetic slate or metal install they are estimating 4-5 weeks of work.

For Faux Slate: $69K
For Metal Standing Seam: $64K

Roofer said he would be happy to break the price into parts and labor for us. I was expecting this roofer to be on the high end because he has a sterling reputation, doesn't subcontract, does quality work...

BUT. WOW. I don't really know what to say. WOW.
well, I know a place where you can get some great advice on how to do this yourself


that is a chunk-o-change.

Is the faux slate that metal sort of shingle type stuff that looks like slate? Trying to justify the similarity in pricing between the 2 products.


I don't know what kind of doctor hubby is but if he does any surgery, I can see why no DIY for him. It costs less to hire out than have him incapacitated due to a DIY injury.
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:54 PM   #20
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DH is a child and adolescent psychiatrist (insert joke here about how he doesn't need his hands). And, as we recently learned, afraid of heights (funny the new things you can learn about your spouse even after 15 years).

No DIY for me, the gutters are over 3.5 stories up - and the roofline is another 15 or so feet. I've been reading DC4NOMORE's thread and I think he's ambitious but crazy.
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Maaannnnn! 'salotta money!
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:46 PM   #22
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Can a roof job really cost 20% of the value of the home? I don't think the bank will loan us that much money....

If you want to contribute to my roof fund, go to paypal.... just kidding.
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Maybe you could do what Dorf Dude! did and put scaffolding around your house up to the level of the roof. Once you're up there and have a level surface to walk on, it might not seem so far up. Especially if you use the safety equipment roofing pro's wear.

Do you have to have all of the old shingles torn off down to the sheathing?
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:05 PM   #24
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I would think that by the time they rented the scaffolding, learned how to build it, build it, fall off once, get back up, attach tie-off points on the roof, start...


aww heck, cheaper to have it done at that point.

see leah, this is what you get for having a couple dollars. Here I am, living in abject poverty. One story ranch, not a lot of square footage, blue collar worker;

I just tell the buddies beer is AFTER the work and next thing ya know,

new roof.



let's see you try that at the office!!

and to the hubby doing the work;

being a shrink, hands aren't necessary but honestly, the first thing he is going to have to do is study the house and find out what happened in the past that would have caused it to need a new roof now. Then he is going to have to convince it needing a new roof is nothing to be ashamed of and it is not the house's fault. A lot of houses need new roofs from time to time. It is normal. Then he is going to have to convince the house that it must willingly let all sorts of men climb all over it and not be disgusted, no matter how many times in the past, it has had dirty men climbing on it and tearing it apart. It must be reminded that although some men tear it down, others are good and they help house to become a better house. Not all men are bad.

eventually, allowing those men to strip it down will allow the house to come out of this being better than it was before. It is for the house's own good.




Now, to the husbands fear of heights:

therapy:

skydiving; bungee jumping

must do both


It won't do a thing for him but you will laugh to no end watching him freak out

videos are good.
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Tear off= depending on parts of the roof 4 -2 layers of asphalt shingles over cedar shakes.

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In truth, DH will just ask the roof How does this make you feel and prescribe it some medication and bill the insurance - [SIGH] I wish that would work.

Now, to the husbands fear of heights:

therapy:

skydiving; bungee jumping

must do both

It won't do a thing for him but you will laugh to no end watching him freak out Funny, cause skydiving came first, fear came later (long story)

videos are good.
Why yes they are. You should see the one I shot of my dachsand trying to swim while wearing a life jacked. Too bad we can't imbed video.
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In truth, DH will just ask the roof How does this make you feel and prescribe it some medication and bill the insurance - [SIGH] I wish that would work.
that is just too funny Leah.
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nap, post #24 is hilarious.
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Leah, all I can say is HOLY CRAP! THAT`S some serious $$$$$$$

I believe I do the best work around and I charge accordingly. I have also gotten to the point where I quickly decline work for two types of people, cheap or annoying, but I will still do freebies for those who need a break.

Coincidentally I have discovered the two types mentioned above often are one and the same person. Your stellar guy likely has the same philosophy. He has worked to get his rep and charges accordingly. He can pick and chose his jobs

BTW, I don't think you're either of those two types above..

In doing my roof I priced out the material and quickly discovered that labor and markup was over 70% of the $6500+ quoted based on my comparison to to premium retail materials and roofers don`t pay retail for their materials . So I started think even with a crew of 4, $4500 plus in labor is a pretty good day`s work even 2 days. Granted this is seasonal work and grueling .

As an installer I make money for time and materials so I wouldn`t want anyone cutting my grass so to speak by supplying materials but I had been seriously contemplating the work myself except for the height. In my world, ladders over 6`feet are reserved for climbing down holes... Things fall from the sky and I don`t bounce back up like when I was 13 doing diving cartwheels in left field to make the big play.

I had called 3 companies for a quote and watched the prices drop by 25 % as I waited about 2 weeks for a fourth quote, from an experienced roofer who popped up via a family connection. In the interim, a price war broke out by phone. I had sales , specials , month end promos coming my way, it was very interesting to watch the call display for 10 days. In the end the guy with the biggest price cuts went out of business a year later.

This 4th guy mentioned golfs a lot and does quotes all week while his crews work so there has to be some serious cash in the business. He wrote the quote, took my check, bang bang done and gone. Then on my referral he did several friends and neighbors roofs as well. But I have discovered since that he is hard to get a hold of on the course when service is needed for minor things and although it`s not crucial it is an irritation to wait a few weeks for a simple call back. My take on the problem is, he sends his guys because he`s still golfing and they don`t climb down off the roof for a house call when they`re laying shingles.

So when it comes down to comparison shopping the stellar guy has probably earned the right, but often there is a smaller, up and coming guy with a solid rep too.

What you really need to figure out is, if you ever go through the proverbial 100 year storm, which guy will come to your rescue if required and which guy will leave you hanging when the water is pouring in due to poor workmanship.

My guy installed 45 year shingles ... but I don`t think he`ll still be roofing in 25 years...... Your stellar guy may retire but likely the asset he built, his company, will still be in business.
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a lot of $$$ for sure! those quotes are more than twice what i paid for my place AND the land!!

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Quote number two for standing seam metal came in today. $53K. Funny it's $2500 more than the same quoted materials and labor from the same company from 2007.

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