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abaminog 03-29-2010 06:42 PM

Cost of boiler & cylinder replacement
 
Hello!

I have decided to replace my old gas boiler (Suprima) and hot water cylinder (Boiler Mate II). As my house is quite large, I have gone for Vaillant Ecotec 637 boiler and Vaillant uniSTORE 260 cylinder. I got an estimate for the whole system replacement (boiler + cylinder) from the guy I usually use for having my central heating inspected and tested. He is asking 3,800+VAT for the replacement plus flushing the system plus new wiring loom. The estimate does not include the price of the boiler and cylinder as I am getting them elsewhere, but it does include labour and materials.

I am not happy with the price as it looks very steep to me. The guy says that it's a big 3-day job and that's how much it costs. But it doesn't feel right to me, although I don't have a good point of reference. Of course, the right way to get the right price is to get few quotes and pick the best. And I will do it in next few days. But in the meantime I am wondering if someone could give me a guidance on whether the price estimate I have is reasonable/high/ridiculous/etc.

Thanks!

NHMaster 03-29-2010 06:46 PM

That's less than we would charge. Let me ask you a question. How much did your automobile cost? Does it run every day, several hours a day, holidays and weekends. will it last 20 years or so with the very minimal in service.?

abaminog 03-29-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NHMaster (Post 421395)
That's less than we would charge. Let me ask you a question. How much did your automobile cost? Does it run every day, several hours a day, holidays and weekends. will it last 20 years or so with the very minimal in service.?

Thanks for your response! That's quite interesting as I thought everyone would be saying that I am being for a ride by my plumber... By the way, an automobile is a slightly different thing as it is NOT meant to last 20 yrs or so with the very minimal service. Nor is a boiler. And if I have to pay big money for having the new heating system installed, I want to be sure that the price is right. Why wouldn't I?

abaminog 03-30-2010 01:01 PM

I now have got a quote for 1,650 from a reputable local company for exactly the same job and another one for a bit higher than that. God bless a competitive market economy!

Jim F 03-30-2010 08:26 PM

That's why it pays to get multiple estimetes. They can vary wildly whether dollar or pound. The devil is in the details as well. Each contractor has his own ideas about what needs to be done. Are the two estimates for equal parts and labor? I had a boiler estimate that was lower but did not include replacing my old style expansion tank with a newer bladder tank which I wanted so went with the higher one.

abaminog 03-31-2010 04:23 AM

I just had a long chat with another potential contractor. He sounded like a knowledgable man and said that for 1,650 they couldn't do this job properly as they wouldn't be able to do some things (e.g. change some pipes to the right sizes, radiator valves etc) that he thinks are absolutely necessary unless I want problems in the near future. He says this job (ex. boiler & cylinder) should cost 3,500-4,000. So, go figure who is right! Will now be talking to the cheaper guys checking what they are assuming in their estimate...

COLDIRON 03-31-2010 08:15 AM

FYI, When looking for prices/quotes it's best to have the exact information for each contractor to bid on that way all quotes are fair to you and the contractor.

Also it's always better to get at least 3 quotes.

When they are quoting have them submit their license, insurance and references.
After all that make phone calls check them out and pick the lowest responsible bidder, Not always low bid.

It's a lot of work but think of all the years the new system will be operating.

Last but not least keep all bids and information secret from each contractor. Good Luck.

beenthere 03-31-2010 04:56 PM

Often the low quotes exclude a lot of the work and material the higher quotes included.
Then they want to charge you more yet then what the higher quote was.

Ask for a scope of work. Or a detailed list of work and materials included.
Then compare prices. And see what price is including more.

abaminog 03-31-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by beenthere (Post 422280)
Ask for a scope of work. Or a detailed list of work and materials included. Then compare prices. And see what price is including more.

Thanks. I have done just that and seem to be reasonably comfortable with the lower quote. I asked them to come round the house once again to make sure they haven't missed anything important the first time round. I hope I am making the right choice! Only life will tell... They have booked the job for 19-21 Aril.

beenthere 03-31-2010 08:05 PM

Post before and after pics.


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