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Old 02-19-2012, 07:41 PM   #16
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I'm thinkng professional male prostitute, for high end female clientel.
Joking aside. There is a major shift in terms of which gender has and controls wealth globally and especially in the US. Women. Some of them actually earned it but most just inherited it, and judging from some of the "Real Housewives of Wherever" shows sped the inheritance process along!

A friend just burned out at what he was doing in international sales, went through a gruesome divorce, and just said "No More!" He joined one of the top international house and pet sitting services and flies all over the World taking care of property while people are on extended vacations. When that slows down he is linked in to a couple of cruise ship lines that hire people to be cheery and sociable on seniors cruises. Most of the people cruising are lonely, older women and he gets some very amazing offers.

I started in the trades but when it came to be that I had to reverse parent and pay for running my Mom's household and mine, I just could not make enough. I spent the next decades doing very high end PR. And living on airplanes which sounds glamorous but is anything but. In fact, it is extremely disorienting.

When Mom died, I started restoring old homes and businesses and ultimately spent most of time painting. Loved it! And then a deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolisms led to inconsistent use of my left leg which took me out of that game. I still do bids an estimates for others but it is not the same.

So what is next? I will probably focus in on color consulting since I studied the subject for ages and clowns out there get thousands for picking the most horrid colors for people without ever considering the context of surrounding neighborhood or that their may be seasonal changes. There is this one giant Queene Ann Victorian in my old hood with a beautiful painted exterior but the consultant picked 5 values of dark gray for the whole thing. Talk about a depressing---makes you want to slit your wrists---looking home on a gray winter day!

My very first ever girlfriend and I somehow connected a few years back. No action in it save for being good friends and doing some things together across the miles. We are going to see if we can build a specialty publication empire based on the new "print on demand" technologies. I can order a real book on a weekday morning and have it shipped the same afternoon if needed in a hurry. Normal turnaround is 72 hours.

I feel like there is some other career path I should be exploring. We shall see. To answer the original post questions? I changed because I had to for money and will again because I just cannot do what I used to do. I did well at what I pursued and certainly was able to explore things, people and places others never will get the chance. I made beyond decent money at times. Our healthcare system took most of it but I cannot really complain about that either. The care I got and still get is stellar.

Cruise ships are not for me as much as I love being on the water. Floating around with a bunch of horny old ladies rather than racing sailboats just strikes me as disgusting or something. Stranded for the moment and hostage to wound care three times per week bothers me more than anything.


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Old 02-20-2012, 09:52 AM   #17
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If career change means throwing out everything that you've learned, it's nearly impossible without some kind of support. Changing careers is tough when you get older. I'm in my 40's and have a corporate job. I'm bored to death but there is really nothing I can do because I cannot afford to change now. At best, to restart a career, you're looking at ~$40k/yr. early on. My expenses are way above that.
I guess if you can make $80-90k out of the gate, everyone would do it.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:22 PM   #18
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No soOner do I start this thread than I get 3 offers for employment in hvac. I need the money, I'm just tired of the field itself, the people in it, the greed, the low lifes, the attitudes, the bs.

I've never been one to shy from knowing hvac folk have been loOked down upon for a long time. Now after 12 years in the field I realize I can still only change myself.

Not sure if that change starts with a new career or with myself regardless of career.

I dunno but thanks for all of the replies.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:27 PM   #19
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PS, what I say is meant in general. There are many good people that I know of, highly intelligent and respectful that I would give a lung to work with such as BeenThere but unforuntately I so far only have the slim pickings of the people and companies my persoanl situation has left me clinging to. I know there are great hvac companies out there with awesome people and employees, benefits and whatnot. It's just that it's taking me a while to get to them and in the meantime it simply sucks working for the small backstabbing companies I'm left with, why I'm so down on hvac.

It's my own fault and I realize it so perhaps all this is is a venting thread for myself until I get to the top.

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Old 02-20-2012, 10:34 PM   #20
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Also, if I leave hvac I hopefully would not be going into another trade. I'd be doing something completely different such as computers or something. That much I do know.

Definitely not going back to being an electrician, not at my age.

Anywho, just more venting.
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:56 AM   #21
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How about becoming a cat wrangler. This woman gets $85 a crack to get cats into carriers when their owners cannot!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/ny...vadukul&st=cse

My NYC cat sitter did VERY well in cash.

Another career that sounded interesting? I sat next to a young Australian woman on a cross-country flight once. She traveled the World as a professional snowmaker for ski resorts.
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I feel I've about met the expiration date of doing my job too. 9.5 years into doing IT work / running what used to be an IT department as a 1 man show. The only problem is, its way too big of a risk to just jump into something new. With two kids under the age of one at home, a wife, mortgage, car payment, etc., leaving a job to be "happy at work" is a luxury. Secure income is more important at this phase. Although I have the education, experience, and motivation to break out and try some things on my own, there is too little room for error until I'm suddenly eating away at my savings to make ends meet.

Even within my organization, changing positions has me scared. The new guy who took over at the top has told me that I'm his recommended replacement when he retires in 2014. Not even sure if I want that, due to the revolving door of administrators that municipal government has. New mayor gets elected and you could be out of a job, even if you do a good job, just because they want to "make change."
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I think you would find you COULD adjust to income changes and doing without some things, downscaling to a point, etc. What got me was not being able to get health insurance that covered anything because of pre-existing conditions (non at all life threatening or even expensive) that were used as a basis to rider just about any policy provisions out. I gambled and really fell into the black hole that is our current system. I guess the good news about it is that it does strip assets regardless of wealth.

A relative really despises his job to the point it will kill him early for sure. They have a Downes Syndrome child with lots of special healthcare needs though and some alternate employers he has talked with will rider the child out of coverage or deny it all together.
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I changed careers. I was a scientist in the lab.... didn't like the social isolation. I was going stir crazy and losing motivation. I became a prof at a community college. Very social job... I'm much happier. My advice is to NOT toss all your experience. Use your HVAC experience to somehow do a lateral shift into a different career... That way you're not starting at square 1 with a newbie salary.

ha, you could follow my lead and teach HVAC to students! :-D
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None of the ac companies I've worked for ever offered health insurance. Too small, too expensive. That'd be nice to have even with pay reduction as long as steady pay..
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Doc, I spent 36 years at the same place. Mostly because of a fear of unemployment. When they went out of business, I found out, there are jobs out there. Especially if you know people. I went from chemical processing to a chicken farm. After a couple years doing that, I'm semi retired, working part time at a supermarket. Point is, dont be afraid to try something new. If it does not work out, go back to HVAC. If you are willing to work, there are jobs out there and you may find you like doing something, you never expected.
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:09 AM   #27
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I have only begun to scratch the surface of the potential hvac has to offer, I just do not agree with wholl I have to be to succeed. I dont like the people or their ethics or them in general to begin with. I have no desire to a con artist like them.
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Anyways, I have to go away for a few days. In those few days I'll be able to think about my life and this career/life change thing I'm going through. I hope to decide if it's the trade or myself I hope my children respect. I know one thing, in this field if my children are worthwhile than my life and career must change.

Thanks again everyone for all of the replies!
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You mentioned IT. Would you be thinking Hardware or Software or maybe Support? The biggest shock to me, coming from the Marines (how funny, my text prediction software on my phone came up with "Latrines" when I tried for Marines) was how little Gung Ho there was in the field.

Probably had a whole lot to do with the dot com bubble bursting but everyone was guarding their little patch aggressively. Writing uncommented code for the express reason of coding yourself into a full-time position, throwing out documentation when you got laid off so the next guy would have to start from scratch. That sort of stuff.

It was such a relief to go into Framing where everyone was working together as a team and you could step back at the end of the day and see what you accomplished.

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I'm thinkng professional male prostitute, for high end female clientel.

That's exactly what I switched my career to. The pay is awesome, Lots of flexibility, and I don't mean the hours...

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