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Old 05-17-2013, 09:05 AM   #1
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My cousin's son, drank a Red Bull and a 5 Hour Energy together yesterday. He's had multiple seizures and they can't get them stopped. I know that some European countries ban those things, but taking them together? Anyway, be careful.

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Sorry to hear about your cousin's son.

The FDA has been asked to take a look at how energy drinks are marked (like anybody would read the warnings?) and sold in this country. The usual uproar is ensuing about government intervention where common sense should prevail, but of course does not (especially within the primary age group to which these products are targeted). Obviously and even though we think of them as safe ones, these "energy" drinks contain high levels of powerful stimulants not even dilluted as one would be in a cup of coffee. And the little bottle things are gulped, not sipped over the course of 1/2 hour or whatever. Any energy producing substances in them is mainly from complex carbohydrates like corn syrup.

And they are available to all age groups and therefore humans of all body mass. It does not matter if they taste horrible because they never have to hit your taste buds. There are many who have argued the addictive properties of caffeine. I think it total hogwash so long as I get my two cups first thing in the morning I am just fine. Seriously, the CDC is seeing a pattern of more serious stimulant addiction to things like caffeine (and other stuff in these energy drinks) that has caused them to issue at least cautions about the situation---especially to ER and paramedic personnel.

There was a combination juice flavored malt beverage and high caffeine product that was forced from shelves because of the package resemblance to things like tea drinks in the same size and same look cans. You had to be 21 for them but... Red Bull and vodka seems to be a popular drink among young drinkers. In both cases, nothing like shocking your system with a strong stimulant and a strong depressant at the same time with the brilliant logic that your system will be so thrilled by the former you can drink extra hours or twice as much. Or you can better tolerate club drugs. ER friends see the results of this brilliant thinking.


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Old 05-17-2013, 04:41 PM   #3
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I'm pretty sure that I will stick with plenty of water, and, just for variety, an occasional Gatorade on long, hot days. Oh yeah, and a gin and tonic on the porch in the evening. I just haven't figured out why all of these young people think that they need energy drinks to keep up with us. :-)
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I know several people who use energy drinks on a regular basis. These same people struggle to get up on time, get tired easily, and generally are no more alert than anyone else. If anything, it seems like most people develop less energy over the long term after regular consumption of these.
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It's like any other drug: at first you take it to feel good, but eventually you have to take it to keep from feeling bad.
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I should have mentioned that all the questionable ingredients in energy drinks are quite natural. Only in energy drinks do caffeine, glucuronolactone, and taurine appear in the same can though. None were developed by the government to boost morale in Vietnam. Some studies have been done on all individually and results reported accordingly. Studies of all three in combination are fairly new as are the drinks themselves when you think about it. There could be no long term studies yet.

As mentioned, energy drinks do contain large amounts of complex carbs. Ever had a sugar rush that lifted you way up near instantly and then dropped you off a cliff like a rock? With less residual "energy" than you had to start?

It is all the ingredients together that seem to pose a risk, especially if consumed in quantity and too quickly.
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Sorry to hear about your cousin's son.

The FDA has been asked to take a look at how energy drinks are marked (like anybody would read the warnings?) and sold in this country. The usual uproar is ensuing about government intervention where common sense should prevail, but of course does not (especially within the primary age group to which these products are targeted). Obviously and even though we think of them as safe ones, these "energy" drinks contain high levels of powerful stimulants not even dilluted as one would be in a cup of coffee. And the little bottle things are gulped, not sipped over the course of 1/2 hour or whatever. Any energy producing substances in them is mainly from complex carbohydrates like corn syrup.

And they are available to all age groups and therefore humans of all body mass. It does not matter if they taste horrible because they never have to hit your taste buds. There are many who have argued the addictive properties of caffeine. I think it total hogwash so long as I get my two cups first thing in the morning I am just fine. Seriously, the CDC is seeing a pattern of more serious stimulant addiction to things like caffeine (and other stuff in these energy drinks) that has caused them to issue at least cautions about the situation---especially to ER and paramedic personnel.

There was a combination juice flavored malt beverage and high caffeine product that was forced from shelves because of the package resemblance to things like tea drinks in the same size and same look cans. You had to be 21 for them but... Red Bull and vodka seems to be a popular drink among young drinkers. In both cases, nothing like shocking your system with a strong stimulant and a strong depressant at the same time with the brilliant logic that your system will be so thrilled by the former you can drink extra hours or twice as much. Or you can better tolerate club drugs. ER friends see the results of this brilliant thinking.

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drinking an energy drink is similar to the way world governments print money. That "extra " energy boost you get has to be paid back one way or another.
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I drank an energy drink once, just to try it. Never again. It made me itch everywhere. It was a horrible feeling.
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Sorry to hear about what happened.

Just read an article written by a physiologist regarding these drinks, student athletes, and dehydration. They are banned in many countries. Kids should never be given these drinks. Probably true for adults as well.
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This is the same government that fines me $37,000 for painting a house that have lead paint and makes me go out and buy a $600 heap vac. But they approve and let kids go out and buy this crap with no regulation at all.
Rusty I hope every thing comes out all right buddy keep us posted.
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It's easy to knock whatever government we got -
What are we going to put in it's place?!?
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It sounds like he is going to be OK. But has a few more days in the hospital. The doctor told them that they have had people die from heart attacks after drinking those things.
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Good to know that he will be ok, and glad to hear that it wasn't worse.
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i sometimes use the walmart .88$ energy drinks. they work well.

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