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Old 12-03-2011, 04:21 PM   #1
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So, I'm working for a Siding/Roofing dist. and supplier/installer
I'm the person that they send out to shut the fan off.
(I walk up and turn off the fan, and, wipe the "brown stuff" off my face)
I'm doing alright - 75 to 95 hrs. a week, every week for 4 or 5 years.
They send me out to fix problems - I'm doing OK!

I've got a roof that one of our crews did, weeks before.
Shingles have blown off - not good!
Time to take a break!

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Old 12-03-2011, 05:03 PM   #2
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What fan? What "brown stuff"? Do you have a question?

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Old 12-03-2011, 05:22 PM   #3
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When the "shot" hits the fan - somebody has to turn the fan off.
I'm the one that was sent out to turn off the "fan"!
That's what I did!
"brown stuff"? - eventually, you'll figure that out!
"The stuff hits the fan" - means "FUBAR" - "F'd", Up, Beyond All,
Recognition!
Someone's got to go out and fix things - I was the one!
Would you like me to spell it out more concisely?!

RF
(Is somebody lost here??!)
Either this is funny - or, it's laughably, sad - play on!!!

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Old 12-03-2011, 05:41 PM   #4
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"RF" here -
I think, I'll get on with my stupid, little story -
(As long as "Fans" or "brown stuff" don't get in the way!)
(Jeeez!!!!)
So, I'm up on the roof - trying to see what has happened -
(No, you might not be able to see it from the ground -
and; I lost my "X-Ray" vision!)
(Too much "brown" stuff on my glasses!)
Ha, ha, ha!!

Well, we've got squares of roofing; blown off or ready to blow off -
(A "square" is a 10 ft, by 10 ft. area)
I go back to the shop and tell the owner - get the "Installers" back!
He doesn't know where they are.
So, guess who's going back to the house to make things right?!?

I"m back there - replacing shingles (architectural) - trying to make it right1
You know - Shut the Fan Off!!! (What do mean by "Fan"?? - Huh??!)

Break time!

rossfingal
(Got to go and wipe the "brown stuff" off my face!!)
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:12 PM   #5
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So, I'm replacing lots of shingles - LOTS!
(The final count was about, 6 squares)
The pitch on the roof is about, 8/12 to 10/12 -
I can walk it it.
I'm walking across a section of the roof and what happens??!!

The roof was nailed with lots of (we call it "high-nails") -
The nails were put, in above the place on the shingles, that they were supposed to be nailed.
There had been "WIND" force going on.

I'm walking across a part of the roof, and a 10 ft, by 10 ft. area of roofing
breaks lose. Wheeee!!!
Down we go!!!

The only thing I was concerned about was kicking my ladder away,
so I didn't get "Tied" up with that (36 ft., Werner).
I make a successful, fall to the ground -
(Didn't break the ground!!)
laying there for awhile - "Ouchy", "ouchy", "ouchy" !!!
2 weeks off, and a dislocated, shoulder!

As always, the moral of the story is - Don't fall off of a roof - got it!!!
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:44 PM   #6
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Bummer about the fall. So how does 100 square feet of shingles break loose at once .
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:25 PM   #7
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"JackDidley"
Post the question in the roofing sub-forum.
"Sly...", 'Roof Mast...", "Grumpy", "Tinner...", "Windows On W"... might be able to give you a succinct answer.

I go down riding this section of "architectural" shingles -
trying to kick my ladder out of the way -
land on my side 1 1/2 stories down, on undisturbed, clay!
You're dwelling on, how a section of roofing that large could break free -
Whatever!!!
Hope you never run into that!

Sure hope my content, and my spelling, and sentence structure were up to standards!
You don't believe it happened - who cares!!!
I was there, no one else was!!
Happy Holidays!
rossfingal
(It's only a 10 ft. by 10 ft. area!)
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:45 PM   #8
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I dont doubt that it happened. Just wondering how.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:27 PM   #9
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Yikes! An 8/12 pitch would have had you shooting down & off the roof like the kid tobogganing down the stairs & out the door in "Home Alone."

Glad to hear that you're not hurt any worse than you are!
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[quote=DrHicks;785443]Yikes! An 8/12 pitch would have had you shooting down & off the roof like the kid tobogganing down the stairs & out the door in "Home Alone."

Glad to hear that you're not hurt any worse than you are![/quote]

I think there was minor brain damage done
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How does a 10 ft. by 10 ft. section of shingles break free?
Hmmm?
Well, you've got a 5 person roofing crew - 1 compressor - 4 nail-guns.
They're going as fast as they can (believe me - they were FAST!!)
To lessen the lag time on the compressor; they're nailing too high on
the shingles - also, 4 nails, not 5.
New roof - it's windy - the wind starts tearing the shingles through the nails -
here and there - doesn't tear the shingles off completely - they seal
together.
No shingles in that area are missing - it looks the same as the rest of the
roof - except for the areas where the shingles have been blown off.

I think they call it a "Booby-Trap" - I was the "Booby"!!

At that time we were extremely busy -
I don't know exactly - 7 to 10 roofing crews - 3 siding crews - 2 window
and door crews and a gutter crew.
They're all sub-contractors - the owner payed them very well!
I can understand why they have to go fast.
Besides: if the proverbial, "poop hits the fan" -
I'm there!!
I was doing 75 to 95 hours a week (4 or 5 years, straight through -
you'd be having a nice Christmas day, with your family - I'd be up on a
roof, installing skylights - or something - estimating roofs, siding, gutters
off of blueprints)
My estimates were, as I was told by the owner; within 5 percent - always.
Geometry (and a little "Trig")

This was not the only "Booby-Trap" I walked into!!
I was very, mad!!!

I'm working on a roof right now 12/12 - 10/12 - I'm walking the 10/12
(Very carefully!!)
The things we do for money!!!

Happy Holidays!

rossfingal

("minor brain damage done"? - I think that happened years before this! - "chrisn"!)

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How does a 10 ft. by 10 ft. section of shingles break free?
Hmmm?
Well, you've got a 5 person roofing crew - 1 compressor - 4 nail-guns.
They're going as fast as they can (believe me - they were FAST!!)
To lessen the lag time on the compressor; they're nailing too high on
the shingles - also, 4 nails, not 5.
New roof - it's windy - the wind starts tearing the shingles through the nails -
here and there - doesn't tear the shingles off completely - they seal
together.
No shingles in that area are missing - it looks the same as the rest of the
roof - except for the areas where the shingles have been blown off.

I think they call it a "Booby-Trap" - I was the "Booby"!!

At that time we were extremely busy -
I don't know exactly - 7 to 10 roofing crews - 3 siding crews - 2 window
and door crews and a gutter crew.
They're all sub-contractors - the owner payed them very well!
I can understand why they have to go fast.
Besides: if the proverbial, "poop hits the fan" -
I'm there!!
I was doing 75 to 95 hours a week (4 or 5 years, straight through -
you'd be having a nice Christmas day, with your family - I'd be up on a
roof, installing skylights - or something - estimating roofs, siding, gutters
off of blueprints)
My estimates were, as I was told by the owner; within 5 percent - always.
Geometry (and a little "Trig")

This was not the only "Booby-Trap" I walked into!!
I was very, mad!!!

I'm working on a roof right now 12/12 - 10/12 - I'm walking the 10/12
(Very carefully!!)
The things we do for money!!!

Happy Holidays!

rossfingal
I have trouble with my keyboard sitting on my desk, I cannot imagine typing up on the roof
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Picky - picky - Picky!!!
What if I have a "Lap-Top" or a "Note-Book"??
(If I did - the last place I'd take them would be up on a roof!!!)
I don't even like taking my cell phone up!!
Nice call, though "chrisn"!!

RF

(However, I've been on a roof, or a scaffold - answering my phone - ME BAD!!)
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It's often been said by some crews that the expression,"properly nailed shingles" is overrated nowadays in this modern era.


Maybe the devil IS in the details afer all?
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I've been on god knows how many poorly nailed roofs and never saw 100sf of shingles give way like that.

Knock wood.. i guess.

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