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madcitysw 01-16-2008 06:12 PM

16' - 18' ceiling, how to get up there?
 
OK, here is my main problem right now. I been looking for a step ladder to reach inside a BK store. In the playground area, the ceiling is about 16' - 18' high and need to change some of the light blubs which are the T8 types. I can't seem to find a step ladder that will reach up there. I was told that the other guy got up there with some of boom lift. I just don't see it since I don't know how he got it in the room in the first place since our door width is the normal size you see like a standred door size. Is there some else out there that can be used to get up a ceiling?

jerryh3 01-16-2008 06:46 PM

http://www.littlegiantladder.com/lit...kyscraper.html

madcitysw 01-16-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryh3 (Post 89063)

That 17' ladder looks like what I need, but the price for that ladder is a little high LOL.

jerryh3 01-16-2008 07:05 PM

They are expensive, but it should be cheaper than renting a boom lift each time you need it.

Cow 01-16-2008 07:16 PM

http://www.genielift.com/ss-series/index.asp

These work excellent. They fit through doorways and take very little time to setup.

AtlanticWBConst. 01-16-2008 07:20 PM

:laughing: http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...T/IMG_2121.jpg

AtlanticWBConst. 01-16-2008 07:27 PM

We have several tall ones 8', 10', 16', 20' (like in the picture). I am just anti-rental and would rather put the money towards owning equipment, unless it won't be used often. (I also have a very good ladder and staging wholesaler close by, in tax free NH)

My advice, if this is a one time thing, would be to look into renting one, from a rental company or a staging company.

madcitysw 01-16-2008 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlanticWBConst. (Post 89080)
We have several tall ones 8', 10', 16', 20' (like in the picture). I am just anti-rental and would rather put the money towards owning equipment, unless it won't be used often. (I also have a very good ladder and staging wholesaler close by, in tax free NH)

My advice, if this is a one time thing, would be to look into renting one, from a rental company or a staging company.

Well, the thing is I don't think this will be the one time thing since I took over the BK store as a HVAC tech and this store that I having problem reaching the lights is the only store that we have that has a playground that big. May I ask what brand ladder that is? It looks like a 15' ladder right? Where do you think I could find that? I have already tried lowes and they don't have any very tall ladders.

AtlanticWBConst. 01-16-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by madcitysw (Post 89116)
May I ask what brand ladder that is?

Blackbearladder/Green Bull Ladder:

LINK: http://www.blackbearladder.com/bblwe...uminumstep.pdf

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Originally Posted by madcitysw (Post 89116)
It looks like a 15' ladder right?

I believe it's a 20'...

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Originally Posted by madcitysw (Post 89116)
Where do you think I could find that? I have already tried lowes and they don't have any very tall ladders.

This is not a ladder that Big Home improvement stores will carry. They carry items that they can sell alot of (volume profit). Sales shelf/floor space in Big Home stores is decided on dollar-Profit, not on the needs of the working contractor.

Do a search in your area.

That company specializes in staging, planks, ladders, pump jacks, safety equipment, etc... Love the quality and prices they have. Got a really nice Track-Rac portable saw stand set for a great price from them too.

madcitysw 01-17-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlanticWBConst. (Post 89121)
Blackbearladder/Green Bull Ladder:

LINK: http://www.blackbearladder.com/bblwe...uminumstep.pdf



I believe it's a 20'...



This is not a ladder that Big Home improvement stores will carry. They carry items that they can sell alot of (volume profit). Sales shelf/floor space in Big Home stores is decided on dollar-Profit, not on the needs of the working contractor.

Do a search in your area.

That company specializes in staging, planks, ladders, pump jacks, safety equipment, etc... Love the quality and prices they have. Got a really nice Track-Rac portable saw stand set for a great price from them too.

Well, I contact the Black Bear Ladder and I am waiting on their reply. I also wondering did you had your ladder shipped to you? If so, was the shipping high? It does looks a nice ladder in your picture and all. I did look for some reviews on Green Bull and didn't find any bad ones. I noticed that they have a lease to own plan as well. The only problem with that is that it has a min $1000.00 allow. Did you buy yours straight without a lease?

Thanks
Shane

Cow 01-17-2008 06:59 PM

I'd measure your ceiling height first before you drop the cash on one of those big A-frame ladders. That one in the picture above should be 16', we have one just like it. Takes two guys to move it around easily as it probably weighs 200+ lbs. If your ceiling is only 16' and not 18' you can get away with a conventional 12' stepladder that's probably half the cost. Probably find it easier too. Another thing to keep in mind is how you'll get it into the play area. Are you going to have to drag that long 16' ladder through the restaurant squeezing through doorways and around people? Or do you have an exterior entrance to the play area? A 12' ladder is so much easier to maneuver and only takes one guy to carry it. As a sidenote, I believe all our ladders are Werner.

madcitysw 01-17-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cow (Post 89407)
I'd measure your ceiling height first before you drop the cash on one of those big A-frame ladders. That one in the picture above should be 16', we have one just like it. Takes two guys to move it around easily as it probably weighs 200+ lbs. If your ceiling is only 16' and not 18' you can get away with a conventional 12' stepladder that's probably half the cost. Probably find it easier too. Another thing to keep in mind is how you'll get it into the play area. Are you going to have to drag that long 16' ladder through the restaurant squeezing through doorways and around people? Or do you have an exterior entrance to the play area? A 12' ladder is so much easier to maneuver and only takes one guy to carry it. As a sidenote, I believe all our ladders are Werner.

I did measure the ceiling to make sure what I need, it was around 16' To 17' feet long from the floor. I had to climb up on the playground tubes where the kids plays inside, it kind of scary but I did fine without losing my self since I don't weigh much at all. But there are places where you can't climb on to get to the other lights since the unit is not over that side. There is two doors, but one is suppose to be a Emer Exit only, but I seen people use it anyway LOL. At the front door, you would have to turn hard to your left where there are tables and a trash bin to go to the playground door. I could post some pictures to show you what I talking about. So yes, I think I would have to squeeze though around other people to get in the room.

AtlanticWBConst. 01-17-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by madcitysw (Post 89298)
Well, I contact the Black Bear Ladder and I am waiting on their reply. I also wondering did you had your ladder shipped to you? If so, was the shipping high? It does looks a nice ladder in your picture and all. I did look for some reviews on Green Bull and didn't find any bad ones. I noticed that they have a lease to own plan as well. The only problem with that is that it has a min $1000.00 allow. Did you buy yours straight without a lease?

Thanks
Shane

They have a place about 25 minutes from me, so we buy direct. I believe that the ladder in the picture was about $200.00 less than what other companies were pricing their comparable ladders at.

madcitysw 01-17-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlanticWBConst. (Post 89465)
They have a place about 25 minutes from me, so we buy direct. I believe that the ladder in the picture was about $200.00 less than what other companies were pricing their comparable ladders at.

They did respond to my e-mail and said it would cost at least $150.00 to ship the ladder from them to me. He said that I should contact Green Bull and see if there someone who is closer that can sell me a ladder.

nap 01-18-2008 07:44 PM

didn't see if anybody actually figured out how tall the ladder in the pic is. It it is a 16' ladder.

ladder height=rung count +the top cap.

working height is advertised ladder height minus 2 feet.

Basically, if you are 6 feet tall, a 14 foot ladder will put your head at 18 feet. Your arms are not as long as you think especially if you are not working directly above the ladder.

Before getting a ladder such as this, check the spread when it is open. A 16 foot ladder lays out a huge footprint.

You might look into an extension trestle ladder. It allows a smaller footprint for the same height. They are a bit spooky to work on though since you are essentially working on an extension ladder sticking straight up.

trestle ladder


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