I have just joined this chatsite, and I am mainly wondering about shower valves. I am a plumber from the San Jose area and have worked for a plumbing company for the last 5 years. I would just install whatever the homeowner picked out or the general contractor which for some reason would be Grohe in that area. But know I am actually installing my own shower valves and installing them is no problem, but I never had the opportunity to actually choose a valve. I am leaning towards Moen. So I might post my question in the plumbing section. enjoying the new project, Patrick