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Old 10-15-2010, 07:53 PM   #16
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:10 PM   #17
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I often get called in on a job that is about to derail--I finished up a job this summer where the homeowner GCed a kitchen and bath remodel---there are a lot of things to think about--


He did O.K. but cost himself some money on the plumbing because the job was not timed properly--

He also hadn't figured on all the loose ends that are not covered by the individual trades--
All ended well--It would have been smoother if he had gotten some simple advice before the job started,however.

I do think there is something needed ---so often we recommend that a pro be hired--then the forum will not offer assistance in working with a pro,because it's not DIY.

I do think that we can find a middle ground--This is a Diy site,and a good one--but there are times to call a pro----We should be able to help there,too.--Mike---
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I'd read a forum on DIY GC-ing with interest. Great idea.
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Bidding on and doing many large carpet jobs thru the years, I have dealt with many GCs who had no clue what order they needed to schedule work. I have shown up on many a commercial and residential job where they were not even close to being ready and the GC didn't even know that some things had to be done before the flooring could go in. I have encountered GCs on this and other forums who gave a lot of bad advice. So I am not so sure that some HOs would do a worse job.
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I have been a GC/framing contractor for 15 years now, I can tell you that GCíing your own home is no easy task. I have seen firsthand on many occasions a project go bad.
I have seen many HOĒS become over whelmed with organization & scheduling. From my experience the biggest problem HO/GC have is the subs tend to walk over the HO. I have seen electricians running wires before plumbing & HVAC, if you donít know why this producer is wrong them your over your head and should be hiring a professional.
I could write a book on this topic and probably will.
Iím not sure if I can post links yet, but if you can find my web site I have plenty of HO/GC war storyís posted on my site.
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Welcome Festa---We are just kicking this idea around --glad to have another set of opinions---

GCing works best when a person has --logic,common sense and good organization.

Enough strength of character to speak up when things aren't going right--The ability to think clearly when things go wrong--------

Not everyone, contractor or layman has this.-------------Mike------------
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If I were to write a step by producer on General contracting your own home it would do no good to most home owners, as I mentioned in my previous post, subs may take advantage of you and your project could suffer delays, not to mention if any mistakes were made in organization.
Who do you think is paying for that sub to come back and repair what was already installed because another sub decided to think only of himself. I have seen subs do just that, they would set themselves up to repair their own work and hit up the HO for extras, and because you don’t know any better your pocket & schedule could empty quick.

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I see a lot of threads asking for help w/contractors
They used to be closed, now we just move them to off-topic
We do the same with people asking costs to hire out
Contractor site you can't be a member & ask questions unless you are a contractor

This site is geared towards DIY...
So its up to Nathan if he wants to expand this site into assisting HO with DIY GC
As a homeowner I'd welcome a section geared towards assisting HO when they have to hire a contractor

That thread linked by kwikfish is a good example of one type of question
People sign up & ask a question without any details
They just want to know how much $$ they can save
Many of these new posters never come back to the site
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Old 10-17-2010, 11:02 AM   #25
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Dave--Putting that kind of question into off topic is probably the best move for now----

I'm not 100% certain that we will be able to help the average home owner save money--

Often DIY general contracting can cost the homeowner more than a good GC.

We have weeded out the subs,know how to buy efficiently, work our way through design and permits.

We will see,I will add what I can --I'm sure that others will ,too.
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Remember, this is a friendly site.

And your post should reflect that.
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I guess this forum doesn't want knowledgeable posts from someone with 40 years experience.
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I’d just like to see a place on this site where homeowner contractor issues can be discussed in general.

I think a “how to be your own GC forum” is ridicules. But the fact is that people doing it every day. Are they saving money? Probably not, but that’s not the point.

The point is to have a place where these issues can be discussed and maybe keeping someone from getting in over there head. Or for the ones that are, help them with a little damage control.
 
 
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I guess this forum doesn't want knowledgeable posts from someone with 40 years experience.
Bashing post are not considered knowledgeable post.

Weather it is bashing a product, a person, a trade, or an entire industry.

Want to make knowledge post. Fine. Do so without bashing or insulting.
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Often DIY general contracting can cost the homeowner more than a good GC.
Scheduling subs is a bit harder then some people thing. Since somethings have to be done before other things are done.

Someone GCing a job themselves has to be very carefull to get everything in the right order. or they end up paying for extra labor, because one sub did they're work before the other got to do theirs.

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