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Old 12-08-2007, 10:38 PM   #31
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People who say Ryobi are crap tools are full of it. Maybe in an heavy-use setting, but for light to moderate use around the house they can't be beat. I've had the 18 volt drill for three years now and remodeled most of my house with it and it's still going strong.
For many folks, one of the more important aspects of buying cordless power tools is the "system" that they are a part of. Batteries that fit multiple tools, chargers that will charge different voltages and older technology batteries as well as the newer ones, availability of accessories, etc.

IMO, DeWalt, Makita and Ryobi probably have the most comprehensive systems with Hitachi now perhaps a distant fourth. Black and Decker/Firestorm has way too many platforms and variations on the same theme with very little interchangeability. Same with Skil. Bosch's offerings are okay but not nearly as comprehensive as say DeWalt. They have very nicely addressed a niche market within the larger power tool market with their lithium-ion power drivers. Ridgid, a good brand name and company, still hasn't figured out where or what they want to be and HD is ruining the line's image with their hokey pricing schemes and positioning against DeWalt. Instead of showcasing it, they give it short shrift on the same display as the bigger name brands and keep beautiful well-stocked DeWalt, Porter Cable and Ryobi displays on their ends caps in the main aisle. Milwaukee has great tools (pre-China) but not as large or varied a system as the others. Porter Cable is now a mere shell of it former self. That's a tragedy altogether.

If you like Ryobi and are pleased with the tools' performance, reliability and durability, then by all means you should continue to build on their system. It's huge. And, they offer some very unique cordless tools that the others either never did or no longer do. 7.2V drill. Staple gun. Blower fan. Corner sander. Etc. But I think it's hard to get the average pro to look twice at investing in the Ryobi line when HD is footballing the line around and discounting the tools to where newbie DIY-ers and homeowners won't pass them up. That type of loss-leader merchandising creates the impression - right or wrong - that the purchase price is a direct correlation to the tools' performance, reliability and durability.

I'm now at the point in my career and business where I no longer buy the system concept, no matter whose brand it is. I personally feel it's too much of a compromise across the various tools I have to carry. Rather, I do my homework as best as I can and try to buy the very best power tool available at the time for the specific needs I have. My workbench has 8 or 9 chargers on it and that's fine with me. I keep three different duplicate chargers in my truck for my mainstays and workhorses. And, I carry spare batteries with me all the time.

My corded tools are a cacophony of brand names - a veritable who's who of manufacturers - again because I selected each based upon my needs, the tools' specific features and any available reviews.

All of this is just my opinion and everyone's mileage is going to vary.

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Old 12-09-2007, 06:57 AM   #32
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I've got both a Ryobi 18V cordless 1/2" drill and 18V Ridgid drill. The drill I usually go for is the Ridgid; it spins a little faster for both drilling and driving and I have 2 batteries for it so it's always available. Price paid on sale, $99.00.
The Ryobi is about an inch bigger so it doesn't fit into tight spots as easily.
What I do like about the Ryobi is that it has a level built in so you know that your holes will be realatively square on at least one plane. It does what it's supposed to do and for $29.00 which included 1 battery, charger, and a flashlight, it was a bargain.
When I bought the two, my plan was to keep only one and return the other, I kept both because I couldn't make up my mind and it is nice to have one fitted to pre-drill and the other to drive.
My ownership on the drills is about 2 years.
I also own the Ryobi corded hammer drill and power planer both great tools.
The Ryobi impact driver is on my Christmas list and for $69 + batteries, how can you go wrong.
I also owned the Ryobi jigsaw and used it for one project. It didn't keep the blade straight enough and I returned it and bought a Bosch, night and day on that tool. My buddy owns a Ryobi table saw, what a piece of crap that is.
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:59 AM   #33
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Perhaps at some point in the not-too-distant future, Ryobi will offer true ramped up versions of their consumer/DIY power tools aimed at piquing the interest of the pros and contractors. Not so gadgety in design, not so kitschy in appearance. More pro-oriented features. Fewer models within a category sans reiterations and bundling might be a good place for them to start. If Ridgid is supposed to be the pro/contractor line, then I have to say that they've missed the boat, at least here in AZ. HD simply does not stock or merchandise the Ridgid line properly. As an example, HD is currently selling a nice compact heavy duty 12V Ridgid drill/driver for $99. With 2 batteries and a charger, that's more than just a pretty good deal. In three stores that I frequent for business, not once did I hear or see store help recommend it or even talk about it. But, I will see folks walking out with a Skil or B&D drill for the same amount of money.

Sadly, B&D will always be consumer/DIY because of DeWalt and Skil will always be the ersatz stepchild of Bosch. Both brands were once hallmarks of power tools and many out there probably still have those oldies-but-goodies hanging around in their workshop, basement or shed.

The bottom line is that everyone should choose and then stick with whatever works the best for them and gives them the greatest post-purchase satisfaction. That's always the real proof of the pudding, individual impressions and opinions aside.
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Old 12-09-2007, 12:57 PM   #34
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Rigid and Ryobi are made by the same manufacturer. I found this out when I went to order a carrying case for my battery operated drill.
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Old 12-09-2007, 01:27 PM   #35
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And that's why I can't figure out why HD doesn't showcase the Ridgid line in their stores here in AZ. They push Ryobi at numerous display points throughout the store like it was going out of style but they don't make any effort to actually merchandise the Ridgid line of power tools. Truthfully, one has to actually look around to find the boxed Ridgid merchandise that relates to the items on display. It's a shame IMO because now that Makita and Milwaukee and a few other brands are being made in China, Ridgid (China) ought to benefit greatly as a result. Oh well....

I have the convertible Ridgid oscillating belt/drum sander in my shop and I'm very pleased with it. I'm glad I chose it over the Delta oscillating drum sander. Quiet and very smooth-running. I also have a benchtop Ryobi drill press (5 years) which is small yet just right for my shop needs and an $87 Ryobi 10" table saw which serves solely as the grunt for rough cutting the garbage and scrap wood that I wouldn't cut on my Bosch.

I just may splurge and go out to buy that 12V Ridgid compact drill/driver from HD. $99 is probably too good to pass up for the RPM's and torque it has.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:45 PM   #36
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I read through this thread but didn't see an answer to my question so I hope I'm not asking something a second time.

I went online to look up a Ryobi battery for the ONE+ line and the batteries I saw listed said RYOBI - RIDGID battery in the description. Does that mean that the Ryobi battery will work in both sets of cordless products? If it does then that doubles the available list of products. Does that include the Lithium line of batteries too?

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Old 12-10-2007, 05:23 PM   #37
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is RYOBI a good brand name tool? home depot has a sale on a ryobi battery powered circular saw (5 1/2") and two speed drill, with one battery and charger, for $49.95. 18 volt.

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I can only vouch for the drill. It holds a decent charge, it's strong, and it's not awkward to hold. So yes, in my opinion, that is a very good deal. The ONE+ system is a very good option for homeowners. I've never used my tools in a heavy-duty setting. I tend to use my corded tools for work.

I hope that answers your initial question. As for the battery compatibility between the Ryobi, Ridgid, and Ryobi Lithium - I'm not sure.
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jnyfive, don't believe everything you read on E-bay. Ryobi uses a tower configuration, Ridgid has a shoe base.
Just to clear a little fog, Ridgid is manufactured by One World Technologies, a subsidiary of Techtronic Industries (TTI), under contract with Ridge Tool Company, a division of Emerson Professional Tools.
TTI owns and manufactures Ryobi, AEG, Homelite, Hoover, Dirt Devil, and a couple other things I can't remember at the moment. Oh, yeah, they acquired the Milwaukee brand not long ago.

I have to agree with the comments about HD's current poor displays of Ridgid. Makes me wonder if their exclusive marketing deal is nearing its end....guess time will tell.
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:08 AM   #39
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It's getting to where the same Chinese factory will simply use a different colored plastic, a different mold and slap a different label on the same power tool or kitchen appliance or whatever. The American manufacturers have finally succumbed to their own greed. Profit first, quality fifth after dividends, performance bonuses and platinum parachutes. Forget about consumer satisfaction altogether. Nowadays, it's vogue to simply hire a PR agency to SAY on TV and in ads that consumer satisfaction is at an all time high. Once the bar gets repeatedly lowered, it's awfully easy to make a living being just mediocre. Soon enough, all things everywhere will be made in China. And the Chinese factories will probably then ship parts to Mexico for actual assembly.

Wishful thinking here cause this would never happen but...... a few manufacturers should at least offer something higher-end and much better made than what their factories China are currently mass producing. If a Milwaukee made in China fetches $200, then how about a limited Milwaukee PRO line model that's made in either Europe or the USA and fetches $400 to $500? Fewer sales for sure but at least offer the end user the option.

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is RYOBI a good brand name tool? home depot has a sale on a ryobi battery powered circular saw (5 1/2") and two speed drill, with one battery and charger, for $49.95. 18 volt.

thanks,

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Home Depot has just started selling Ryobi lithium-ion batteries and chargers. $100 gets you one battery (2.4Ah) and a charger. The batteries are 18V and work with all 18V tools. They also have a couple of lithium-ion tool bundles.
The new batteries have to be charged in the new charger - they won't work with the old ones
Ryobi claim that the batteries are 20% lighter have twice the runtime and hold their charge four time better.
I got the lithium-ion upgrade kit and the impact driver.
I haven't used the impact driver a lot yet so I can't verify any of that.
Oh yeah the new batteries also have a button you can push to see how much charge is left. The button will glow either green yellow or red.
There's no dual-slot charger for the new batteries yet.
I'm only gonna be using my tool for miscellaneous around-the-house projects so I don't need something like Makita or Panasonic (not that I wouldn't like to have that Makita driver/impact driver set...)
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Ryobi is good for home use but doesn't have the balls or battery life for commerical work.
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Old 12-25-2007, 10:33 AM   #42
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I will get flamed for this, but here goes. I use a Ryobi 16v drill. As a pro no less. The batteries are a lower amp hour than most pro batteries, but the batteries are so cheap I carry a bunch of them. I had 2 18v Milwaukee cordless drills 'grow legs' Bought the Ryobi, get laughed at, and continue to use it. Good tool, and it hasnt "grown legs' I will be buying the LI-Ion batteries as mine die.
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Old 12-25-2007, 03:06 PM   #43
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I will get flamed for this, but here goes. I use a Ryobi 16v drill. As a pro no less. The batteries are a lower amp hour than most pro batteries, but the batteries are so cheap I carry a bunch of them. I had 2 18v Milwaukee cordless drills 'grow legs' Bought the Ryobi, get laughed at, and continue to use it. Good tool, and it hasnt "grown legs' I will be buying the LI-Ion batteries as mine die.
Rehabber, use whatever works for you and performs to your needs and expectations. Labels mean less and less nowadays, but some folks will still get hung up on them. I cave in at times and play the it costs so much more so it should be that much better mind game.

Along the lines of this, I love to cook, am quite accomplished in the kitchen and I have some of the finest cookware made, including tin-lined copper from France. But, I still humbly bow to the busy working mom or dad or lil ol' granny who makes a scrumptious, mouth-watering, button-popping meal in a $15 stamped aluminum frypan or a 60-year old cast iron skillet. Technique. Experience. Skill. In your example, it's all about knowing where to drill, how deep to drill or drive, etc.

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i own most of the ryobi +one tools....i am very happy with them....there are higher quality tools out there, but if i drop my impact of a sizzor lift 50 ft. in the air i'm only out 69 bucks.....the fact that they are easily replacable wins for me....we were hanging duct in a church 35 ft. up and a guy I work with dropped his ryobi impact it hit the concrtete bounced and slid a considerable distance the battery flew out.....we got down put the battery back in and it worked fine....that was 6 months ago it is still going strong....thats when i decided to get the ryobi....

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