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Old 11-16-2007, 04:34 PM   #16
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I'll stick with my Makitas.

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Old 11-16-2007, 04:48 PM   #17
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I bought 4 Ryobi 12volt drills for work. I think they were around $40 each. They get abused, used like a hammer and such. They keep working.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:20 AM   #18
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Hello all!

Although I mainly use Makita, Bosch and Porter Cable power tools for my business, I can't say that a Ryobi or Skil or Firestorm power tool is a bad investment providing you lower your expectations of it when you buy it. Then, if it performs better than your expectations, you'll be pleasantly surprised. Otherwise, you'll pretty much have gotten exactly what you paid for. But, it's not a practical agrument in my opinion to compare any homeowner quality power tool with a professional quality one costing 2X or 3X more. We pretty much get what we pay for in this world and the daily rigors of professional use will eventually separate the men from the boys when it comes to power tools.

Some things any potential power tool buyer should consider besides the price difference when comparing models and brands:

Torque. RPM's or SPM's under actual load. Power-to-weight ratio. Battery life and recharging times. Chuck design, i.e single sleeve ratcheting vs. dual sleeve non-ratcheting. Gear box construction and quality, i.e. plastic or metal, sealed or not. Operating noise levels. Variable speed smoothness across the entire RPM range. Durability and drop resistance. Versatility. Toolless bit or blade changes. Balance. Vibration. Operator fatigue.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:50 AM   #19
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There was another site that broke this down even better, but this is what came up on a quick search saying the ryobi saw in europe is only available in the us under the Ridgid name. Cant find the UK posting board where i found out about the ryobi heavy duty hammer drill they quickly pulled that was actually the ridgid drill and made note of hte differences of batteries for ryobi in the us, and batteries in europe. Wish I still had my 3 speed ryobi hammer drill they released for that month before pulling it, that thing had hte fastest speed and torque of any gun i've ever had, but it ate through my batteries too fast, i'm gona try to get some euro batteries from ryobi shipped in. I wounder what theyre ions are rated at over there.
heres a quote from an online review editor over there who gets the "professional" line from ryobi in europe.

> Ryobi and Ridgid are both part of Emerson Tool, IIRC. Emerson used to make
> power tools for Sears. You will find that the Ryobi "Professional" tools
> sold in Europe are indistinguishable from Ridgid, the house brand of Home
> Depot. Have a look here: http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=114304
> That is my Ridgid, only in Ryobi blue instead of Borg orange.


http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/rev...EMS1830SCL.htm

People dont accept Ryobi for professional use, they find it hard to rationalize that they just payed 600 bucks for something that a 300 dollar one would do just as well. Ryobi lacks in thier batteries, which is on purpose, so that it doesnt take away from the Ridgid line. Which is another reason why theyre new Lithium line has changed grip style and colors, to place it strictly in the DIY field, because more and more professionals were turning to Ryobi over the other major names, which was yet again, taking away from thier Ridgid line which is a strong direct competitor with Dewalt, Makita, Bosch, etc... So get the old Ryobi's while you still can before they change them all out to thier new style, and get the new Lithiums for them, but not the lithium combo packs cause the tools are designed on a lower field then the old. in other words, buy the blue, not the green. Comparing ryobi with other affordable brands like skill, firestorm, etc... Ryobi wins hands down without a doubt, now put a lithium battery on them and compare them to the regular (non lithium, cause again, the new ones are a stronger battery, but also 4 times the price) dewalts and makitas, and it's a close contest. and yep, look at the specs, then walk over to the next display and look at thier specs, usually the same. It's always boiled down to the poor batteries Ryobi purposefully uses for thier home owners line.

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Old 11-17-2007, 09:31 PM   #20
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I'll stick with my Makitas.
I just got their 18v Lithium-Ion compact drill/driver and it's remarkably light. Has very good balance and a silky-smooth trigger. Plenty of power. Low, small profile, too. The quick recharge feature is going to be a blessing on the job. It will complement my larger Panasonic cordless drill/driver very nicely.

I also have most of Makita's 9.6V stick-battery cordless tools and a dynamite long-discontinued small 4.8v cordless drill that's perfect for finishwork. A 5" random orbit sander, a VS belt sander, a corded impact driver and a corded screwgun round out my Makita toolbox.

Makita gives excellent value for the money spent.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:17 AM   #21
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I have the compact too and I love it. Best drill I've ever used.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:45 AM   #22
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I have the compact too and I love it. Best drill I've ever used.
And there you have it! Great minds DO think alike!
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:17 AM   #23
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Did you get the impact driver too? I've been considering getting one of those, although I don't really need it, but figure it might come in handy every now and then. I use that drill 90% of the time for driving pocket screws.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:03 PM   #24
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To tell you the truth, PK, I purchased the diminutive 10.8v Bosch Litheon pocket impact driver a few months back to complement my 10.8v Bosch Litheon pocket driver/drill which I've had for close to year. Two cordless tools, four lithium-ion batteries and two rapid chargers for around $330 total. For their size and weight, both are incredibly powerful and battery life is exceptional. But, I do have a corded fullsize Makita impact drver for the gut-buster deck screws and lags.
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As a professional remodeler, I use a large number of tools, mostly corded. Hitachi, Porter Cable, Milwaukee, DeWalt, Bosch, Fein, and even a Festool RO sander. One of my cordless tools is an 18V Ryobi. I use (and abuse) it daily now for three years. Best bargain I have ever gotten in a tool.
Have you ever used the cordless trim guns? I recently got the paslode 16ga and love it. Much more power than what I exected.
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Have you ever used the cordless trim guns? I recently got the paslode 16ga and love it. Much more power than what I exected.
I had a DeWalt 16ga straight cordless nailer for almost 3 years and it worked very well. However, it was heavy to hold out at arm's length on a ladder, let alone rest securely on the ladder's paint pail platform.

No oiling. No breakdowns. Decent number of nails per charge. Occasional bent nail would jam it but there was a very quick release that allowed it to be removed with no problem.

I sold it several months back and opted to carry and use my various compressed air nailers instead. For my needs, they're more versatile. 16ga, 18ga, 23ga pin, staples, etc.

Never owned a Paslode but their reputation is excellent and they are widely used by the various tradespeople.
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Old 12-08-2007, 11:50 AM   #27
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I have the paslode impulse cordless gas setups, the 16 ga angled nailer and framer. I've been very happy over the years. I've never used the Dewalt cordless, I originally got the Senco air free cordless trim nailers when they first came out years ago (probobly 6 yrs ago), wasnt impressed at all, and I guess Dewalt uses the same system, thats why i've never bought or used theres. I remember with my air free senco I had multiple problems daily. It used a type of band and pulley system, but if I hit a knot or another obsticle, it would lock up in the middle, then i'd have to stop, unscrew the whole gun apart, and reset the pulley system, needless to say it was returned a few days later, and the whole line was discontinued, I guess dewalt uses a similiar system, unsure if it's as problematic. But absolutely by hands down, Paslode impulses are preferred by most contractors, for x mas i'm planning on getting the 18 ga brad nailer gas cordless. Just my 2 cents, but again, I havnt used the dewalt, but I'm told it's a similiar design as the faulty senco.
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Old 12-08-2007, 12:16 PM   #28
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I recently purchased the Kobalt CO2 portable air system, (OK I'm a tool whore) I really like the portability for trim work. Tank refills are $2.00 at paintball stores. Much easier to haul around than even my small compressor, and I still have the light weight of my brad and finish nailers.
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hi,

is RYOBI a good brand name tool? home depot has a sale on a ryobi battery powered circular saw (5 1/2") and two speed drill, with one battery and charger, for $49.95. 18 volt.

thanks,

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I have just about every cordless tool they make. I haven't really had in problems with them. The batteries give out after a tear or so but that's pretty much true of any battery. They have came out with a new "improved battery that maybe better.
That being said they are not THE best but the price is right with a decent warranty. I also have Ryobi sliding compound miter saw that I have have for close to 20 years and it still works fine and cuts true. I am a finish carpenter so that is very important to me.
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People who say Ryobi are crap tools are full of it. Maybe in an heavy-use setting, but for light to moderate use around the house they can't be beat. I've had the 18 volt drill for three years now and remodeled most of my house with it and it's still going strong.

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