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Old 10-24-2012, 07:07 PM   #16
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shooting finish nails into old wood is far less likely to split the wood than screws.. old or not.. reason being the nail isnt pointed like a hand nail is its more blunt so it punches its way though..

today i had to repair some broken trim in a 200 yr old house and i had to glue and pin it back together with 23 gauge nails. the only issue i had was wiping hte excess glue off

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I recently started building Primitive furniture out of reclaimed/unused wood,pallets, ECT......
I have been using a cheap brad nailer and it doesn't always drive the nailed threw and also they aren't very sturdy.
My question is what should I use because I'm looking to purchase a new nail gun but idk what kind I should buy
Thanks!
Lots of guns to choose from. I have a couple of Porter Cable guns which I like and a Bostich as well. All work well. Then there is Paslode who pioneered the "gun" nailers. ( no compressor) If the hose is a concern I would look at the gas guns. Now Porter Cable makes a battery powered nailer, built in compressor. If you brad nailer doesn't drive the nails all the way through, it could be a compressor issue. Usually brad nailers overdrive the brad...at least in my experience. Just match the tool to the job.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:20 AM   #18
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Brads have no strength at least use finish nails. You have two choices 15 or 16 gauge go with the heaviest. I weigh 240 my brother weighs 330 how long do you think a chair or bench put together with brads and drywall screws will last?
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its the glue bond that gives the strenght not the nail. the nail holds things together until the glue fully sets up.

try pulling woodwork apart thats simply put together with finish nails or brads.. doesnt take much.. if its glued good luck...
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Google Festool Domino and Domino XL for new ways of joining.
Look at the Grex nailers, a bit pricey but great guns
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the domino is a great tool but its pretty steep for a beginner.. its basically hypbrid of biscuits and dowels
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You are absolutely correct, drywall screws are for drywall, being more brittle than wood screws. But wood screws also have some drawbacks. I should not have been so hasty in my reply to the person making furniture out of pallets, but so what? I did specifically say to use them on less important parts of furniture such as glue blocks, where glue is the primary joinery and not the screws. Where sometimes large pieces of furniture will take anywhere up to a six or eight screws or more on the non-stress side of blocks which holds them until the glue dries. I think I meant to say square-head wood screws that are very similar to drywall screws and confusing them is my fault. The threads are different but look much alike and no threads on the upper shank, which I used in pocket holes. But so what, everyone has to learn on there own. I don't advocate using the wrong screws, but there are times using drywall screws saves time and money where the screw is not the primary object holding a piece of furniture together. I specifically said glue. I'll take my hits and specifically refer to their proper name, that is "furniture drywall screws." I hope that I don't offend that chap who referred to something about "hack" work - I would like to see his birdhouses!
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You are absolutely correct, drywall screws are for drywall, being more brittle than wood screws. But wood screws also have some drawbacks. I should not have been so hasty in my reply to the person making furniture out of pallets, but so what? I did specifically say to use them on less important parts of furniture such as glue blocks, where glue is the primary joinery and not the screws. Where sometimes large pieces of furniture will take anywhere up to a six or eight screws or more on the non-stress side of blocks which holds them until the glue dries. I think I meant to say square-head wood screws that are very similar to drywall screws and confusing them is my fault. The threads are different but look much alike and no threads on the upper shank, which I used in pocket holes. But so what, everyone has to learn on there own. I don't advocate using the wrong screws, but there are times using drywall screws saves time and money where the screw is not the primary object holding a piece of furniture together. I specifically said glue. I'll take my hits and specifically refer to their proper name, that is "furniture drywall screws." I hope that I don't offend that chap who referred to something about "hack" work - I would like to see his birdhouses!
Sir I apologize for what I said . Apparently I was having a bad day, but that is not an excuse. I had no right to say what I did. I was not calling you a hack I was only referring to using drywall screws in pocket holes. Please accept my apologies.
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Sir I apologize for what I said . Apparently I was having a bad day, but that is not an excuse. I had no right to say what I did. I was not calling you a hack I was only referring to using drywall screws in pocket holes. Please accept my apologies.
Look....if you two don't quit the politeness and respect you will have to find another forum........
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the issue with using drywall screws is that they have a bugle head which can sink deeper into the wood as the screw turns. pocket hole screws have a pan head which stops or slows down the screw digging deeper
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You are absolutely correct drywall screws have a legitimate use and that is hanging drywall! You may make the most beautiful furniture in the world but apparently it doesn't sell for much if all you can afford is dry wall screws. And come on drywall screws in pocket holes that is about as hack as it can get.
To say that drywall screws are only for hanging drywall is amazing. That is akin to saying that hinge tape is only used for hinges. But I can take my hits. I should
have said I used wood screws/pocket screws in pocket holes but didn't; I was too hasty. But I did mean furniture drywall screws for glue blocks, used especially on
the non-stress parts and against the grain underneath and within some types of furniture. I should have been more clear. The caveat is that certain conditions need
to be taken into account. Furniture drywall screw is a colloquilism. Every hack birdhouse maker should know that.

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