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Old 02-03-2009, 11:16 AM   #16
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:58 PM   #17
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I put 300+ Man hours on mine last summer refinishing a porch (lots of gingerbread). Worked like a champ. I've used it alot in demo that required a delicate touch - where my recip saw either wouldn't fit or wouldn't behave.

When my window contractor was here to do my attic windows he spied it and sheepishly asked if he could use it.
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Old 02-10-2009, 02:21 AM   #18
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I have a business doing Household Handyman type work. I've seen the FEIN infomercials and they are impressive. I, along with thousands of others have a limited budget. I checked out the Dremel, and the Rockwell units, my research says stay clear of the Rockwell. I bought the Dremel MultiMaster and have used it only maybe six or so times. I like it, but can't compare it to the FEIN. I've read about blades coming off but so far I've not had this problem. My best project was cutting through 3/4" plywood flooring to replace a bathroom floor from a leaky toilet. It's slower than a skil saw but cuts closer to the walls, and is accurate. Would I recommend it> Yes, it's worth the monies spent. Blades are hard to find around here as HD and Lowe's doesn't seem to order large quanities. On things like this it's too bad we can't go to a store and compare all the available brands/models before buying. Thanks, David
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:58 AM   #19
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A few weeks ago I purchased a Sonicrafter 31 piece set to give it a go. After only about 4 feet of dry wall cutting I proceeded to attempt to change the blade and the head of the unit was so hot that it was very uncomfortable to hold while spinning the hex key. Also, if you're not especially careful in technique blades often come loose requiring a re-spin with the hex key. Not so good. I called Sonicrafter and they said they had no solution to the problem and to return it if I didn't like it. That I did. I purchased it at Sears online so got a full refund even though I used it some. Subsequently paid the freight for a Fein Multimaster 250Q Select (Quick-In tool switching-very nice). Just gets warm after working hard for a half hour or more, is quieter and much smoother running. Definitely better built. Hot is not good with mechanical devices.

I'm very pleased with the Fein's performance all around although my wallet is now wafer thin. Toolauthority.com had it for $287 and change for the Select model. They make 3 models (Start, Select and Top). The "Top" model is the same tool as the Select but with additional attachments I didn't need. The Start model does not have the Quick-In tool changing feature. It uses a hex key like the Sonicrafter but at least the design makes it less likely the blade will slip. Shop around and with some effort and patience significant price breaks can be found on the Internet for the blades and accessories.

With this tool I'm actually looking forward to those odd-ball situations I always seem to run up against while renovating our home.
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:42 AM   #20
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OK , I have had the Dremel for about 3 weeks. I bought it specifically for a door sill replacement and to try to do cutouts in baseboards and kick plates which I am doing more frequently now with my installation work..

Since I bought it, I have cut out baseboards and kicks with good results along with plywood soffits for enlarged soffit vents and also tried a heat vent in laminate flooring. So it has paid for itself in it's versatility. I also have to replace several door jambs and can really see the benefit in an oscillating tool for that job.

The design of the tool is great and the projects are endless but a 6' cord.... WHAT is up with that????..... this is not a work bench toy this is a carry around the house device so 6' is DUMB. Time will tell as far as durability.

My blades vibrated loose 3 or 4 times and then I torqued them tighter and all is good.

No good for laminate but the tool performs well elswhere...but I am told there is not good item for laminate, but that job is done.

Perhaps due to blade thickness I find a straight line was hard to cut facing the underside of the 1/4" plywood soffits, but all in all I did appreciate less sawdust flying back and less possibility of slippage at an awkward angle and an unfreinfdly height.

The blades do get hot and I have been told by a Fein user just to let the tool crawl , don't push it and you will get the best results. I tried this and got better results.

Have to say I use good tools because cheap ones let you down when you need them most ansd I didn't relly realisze the usefullness of this tool until I bought it with only the door sill job in mind. Otherwise I would have hunted for a Fein years ago.

All in all I would score the Dremel a 7 out of 10. It's a good household tool for handyman projects save for the cord length but not a serious renovator or tradesman's tool.

I am seriously debating returning to HD due to the cord frustration alone.
If Dremel made a Heavy Duty Pro version with XL cord I think they would have a winner.
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6'??? that sucks.... i'd replace it with a vacuum cleaner length cord myself.

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Bosch has a cordless one too now. I haven't seen it and I don’t need another set of batteries lying around. If you have Bosch cordless already, it might be worth a look.
Home Depot was demo'ing the Dremel. Like the rest of their tools, it seemed very plasticy. I don’t have a good history with Dremel products, I’ve managed to kill all my Dremel tools.

I can recommend the Sonicrafter. It’s a great tool for when you need to cut in tight spaces. I found a lot of uses for it more than trimming door trim and such. My last use was for nipping off a blade width from cut-out stringers. It has the feel of a decent tool, got a little bit of weight. I haven’t thrown it off the ladder yet, like I seem to do with all my tools, but I bet it would take the fall and keep working. The tool gets quite warm if running it for a length of time.
I hate the case that came with it though. It’s the plastic one, not the bag that it comes with now. There’s never enough room for the cord in the plastic boxes. I bought the lowest end kit because I’m more interested in cutting than sanding and that’s the biggest difference between kits, the number of sheets of sanding paper. I just bought a 3 pack of blades; $35, very reasonable compared to Fein.
It's one of those tools that you don't know you need yet.

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The blade did come loose the first couple of times I used it but now it stays snug. It might have been a break-in type thing.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:40 PM   #23
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I'd like to say that your point regarding "break-in" is worth noting regarding the Sonicrafter and perhaps with some patience I'd have gotten past that issue. I'll say this about the Sonicrafter, even though I used it briefly it definitely felt sturdy and the blades seemed on a par with the ridiculously expensive Fein blades. I was doing a project that required attention ASAP so decided to go with the Fein. Perhaps I just got a "lemon".

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Old 06-04-2009, 07:09 AM   #24
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Well the Dremel overheated and shut down while cutting a kick plate this week. Apparently the MM must have a thermal cut off sinced it started up again the next day at HD... and yes I checked the receptacle with another power tool .
I wasn't pushing and it was a only 6" cut in a regular kick, but I had been using it off and on for about 10 minutes prior...
So in frustration I returned the Dremel MM to HD. Meanwhile looking for the CS number on a blade package, I discovered BOSCH owns Dremel and RotoZIP. And the Dremel blade package did make reference to fitting FEIN and BOSCH tools.
I have to say when I called Dremel I was annoyed but then I spoke to a very professional lady named Cindy who was sincere in her interest in my issues and asked if I would register for more feedback as this is a new tool.....She also noted my issues and said that in the US she would dispatch a pickup for tool repair ......sounds like good service. Hopefully they put a longer cord on for starters
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:22 PM   #25
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I bought the Dremel about 6-7 months ago for commercial work. The first thing I did before I plugged it in was replace the cord. I have been in that habit for years though so no big deal. Nobody makes a tool with a long and good flexable cord anymore.

Anyway, I've had no problems to date and have gone through several blades and about 100 sanding pads.

As mentioned, with any of the blades, use a delicate touch and don't force the cutting. Seems to work best.
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And the Dremel blade package did make reference to fitting FEIN and BOSCH tools.
For the Fein uninitiated, that reference on the Dremel blade package is referring to the SuperCut, not the MultiMaster. You'll need to spend upwards of $800 to have the Dremel blades fit on a Fein oscillating tool.

Amazon has the best prices I've seen for Fein blades.
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Shamus, I agree on the cord , but that would void any warranty and eliminate my option to return if unsuitable. In fact there is an actual plastic tag device on the cord which states do not remove.
While I am not in the habit of testing tools on the job, this one was uncharted water and I have to say as soon as I started using it to open my plywood soffits, the list of possible projects grew exponentially.
I am now debating between the Rockwell and a Fein, unless I see a Dremel Pro Version
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If you can handle the hex key attachment mode, the seeming tendency for the attachments to come loose (my experience) and the fact that it gets significantly hotter than the Fein then the Sonicrafter, when functioning, seemed to do largely the same job as the Fein. Although I don't know for how long given how hot the attachment head gets. The Fein attachment cost can be reduced by using Google to find non-Fein sources.

I'm happy with the Fein and it's a special use tool that when needed is for me indispensable. That said, seasoned pros may deem both tools for "wussies". My brother-in-law who is a long-time builder joked about that and I'm not lending it to him unless he begs! I'm just a home renovator gradually doing the whole house so I need any help I can get.
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The first time I used the tool the blade came loose. After that I torqued it a bit tighter and no issue. Again I didin't push it but I think the heat build up came from binding while cutting partical board in the kick plate of the cabinet. This was only a 6" horizontal cut. Elsewhere it has worked great and made clean cuts, except on my laminate. I have found on linear cuts the blade seems to wander ( perhaps due to thin construction ) without a guide edge ie dragging my hand along a straight edge... and I can cut very straight freehand with most devices

At a quick glance I didn't find any explanation of an overload or overheat shutoff in the manual,which prompted me to believe it was probably fused or had burned out so I took it back to HD the next morning where they plugged it in again.

Still don't like the cord, but most of all I hate the running around when any tool lets me down. I think this is still a decent tool but I would prefer something heavy duty with a longer cord. A MULTIMAX PRO 10' cord version would be a good option. This tool is promoted as being designed for big projects but still feels a bit on the hobby tool side so I'm shopping for Father's day special on something more rugged.
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I wonder if it makes any difference that both the Sonicrafter and Dremel Multimax both show angles of oscillation at 1.6 degrees where the Fein shows 3.2 degrees. Intuitively the smaller angles would indicate less chance of a "messy" start to a plunge cut but then once started might take proportionately longer to complete. Also, the Multimax has a 1.5 amp rating whereas the Sonicrafter and Fein both are 2.3 amps. I must say that the Fein's 16' power cord has made it rare that I've had to use an extension cord. The Sonicrafter was OK with a 10' cord. Although very convenient it's not a deal closer if the cord is short.

For me it's whether a given tool does the job I need. If so, I couldn't care less about the brand. One of the best tools I own is a Chinese made $14.95 Harbor Freight 4-1/2 inch angle grinder. In fact my contractor bro-in-law is using it and I have his hoity-toity $100 Bosch grinder sitting in my garage.

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