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Old 05-16-2012, 05:14 PM   #16
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I believe the cheaper brand that was "sears" became "companion" for a while and is now "Craftsman Evolv."
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Agreed the Companion tool line was discontinued in 2008 to be replaced by the Evolv line aimed more at DIYers.
  • The good news is that Evolv tools still have a lifetime warranty.
  • The Bad news is that you Have To keep the original dated receipt.
Craftsman also has a new 'Industrial line' of mechanic handtools
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:15 PM   #18
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Craftsman power tools have sucked for about the last 30 years. Their hand tools--wrenches, screw drivers, etc, have been fine but their electric power tools have been cheesy junk since the 70's at least.
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Craftsman power tools have sucked for about the last 30 years. Their hand tools--wrenches, screw drivers, etc, have been fine but their electric power tools have been cheesy junk since the 70's at least.
Not totally true. I have a triple reduction 1/2" drill that bored through many, many marine grade pilings and will still spin you around like a propeller if you let it. Also have a jig saw that was bought in the area of 1994, which still works wonderfully. 2 horse plunge router with hundreds of miles on it still works great.
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Craftsman power tools have sucked for about the last 30 years. Their hand tools--wrenches, screw drivers, etc, have been fine but their electric power tools have been cheesy junk since the 70's at least.
Not true I have a craftsman spade handle drill from 1996 which is the powerhouse dewalt dw131 in craftsman clothing. And I bought my brother a craftsman 2 base router kit on clearance a few years ago that is definitely a Bosch 1617 w/o the magnesium but polished metal!
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Not totally true. I have a triple reduction 1/2" drill that bored through many, many marine grade pilings and will still spin you around like a propeller if you let it. Also have a jig saw that was bought in the area of 1994, which still works wonderfully. 2 horse plunge router with hundreds of miles on it still works great.
Have the same drill a Dewalt dw131 in craftsman clothes!
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Have the same drill a Dewalt dw131 in craftsman clothes!
I worked with a guy almost 30 years ago who had a B&D drill that was identical as well. We know B&D owned DeWalts name back then, even though the new DeWalt line hadn't been conceived yet.
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I worked with a guy almost 30 years ago who had a B&D drill that was identical as well. We know B&D owned DeWalts name back then, even though the new DeWalt line hadn't been conceived yet.
The B&D 1321 and B&D Master series 5140 in chrome are the forefathers of the dewalt 131 and are very torquey stout drills!
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How would they know you are using it for business? Just don't tell them if they ask.....
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How would they know you are using it for business? Just don't tell them if they ask.....
I guess there are still honest people out there.
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I still have a 1960's Craftsman 600 RPM fixed speed drill that I still use occasionally for mixing mud. To get it down to a slow enough mixing speed I use the Heathkit GD-973 speed control that I built also in the 60's.
The Craftsman nameplate, I just noticed, states '25-60 Cycles AC-DC'. The 25 cycle rating must have been included for places like the Panama Canal Zone where I heard they hadn't fully updated to 60HZ until 2002. Anybody know more about this?

In the 80's, I worked In El Segundo where we had an ex air force technician who when he was stationed in the Canal Zone, he had a side job converting new family arrivals, washing machines to run on 25HZ power. That is all they had in Dependent Housing.

I have been 100% satisfied with the Drill, but the case sucked. The crappy plastic hinges broke after the first time I used it. The latch sliders still worked OK, so for years I just used a bungee cord to hold the whole shebang together.

A couple of years ago at Fry's Electronics store I found a perfect replacement case the Flambeau model 18192-2 that will last forever:

This Flambeau Case has been a great find for me and is a great replacement for any of those old style Crafsman Cases. It is super wide for outsize tools. See top view pic.
ref:http://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Low-Too.../dp/B000HS5ZBE

and even cheaper at Sears: (scroll down)
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...=SPM2318123603

Another thing I like the Flambeau is that the top handle is recessed so when the handle when folded down makes the top pretty flat so that more cases can be put on top of it.
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I think Sears is now owed by the new KMart and who knows what the specs and standards now are for products (Craftsman, Kenmore, etc). Both were losing money before they got put together with financing funds like the auto bail-out.

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I guess there are still honest people out there.
Then the OP should have gotten his money back in the extended warranty. It should have never been sold to him in the 1st place.

Im all for being honest but not when they try ti screw you over 1st.
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I still have a 1960's Craftsman 600 RPM fixed speed drill that I still use occasionally for mixing mud. To get it down to a slow enough mixing speed I use the Heathkit GD-973 speed control that I built also in the 60's.
The Craftsman nameplate, I just noticed, states '25-60 Cycles AC-DC'. The 25 cycle rating must have been included for places like the Panama Canal Zone where I heard they hadn't fully updated to 60HZ until 2002. Anybody know more about this?

In the 80's, I worked In El Segundo where we had an ex air force technician who when he was stationed in the Canal Zone, he had a side job converting new family arrivals, washing machines to run on 25HZ power. That is all they had in Dependent Housing.

I have been 100% satisfied with the Drill, but the case sucked. The crappy plastic hinges broke after the first time I used it. The latch sliders still worked OK, so for years I just used a bungee cord to hold the whole shebang together.

A couple of years ago at Fry's Electronics store I found a perfect replacement case the Flambeau model 18192-2 that will last forever:

This Flambeau Case has been a great find for me and is a great replacement for any of those old style Crafsman Cases
ref:http://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Low-Too.../dp/B000HS5ZBE

and even cheaper at Sears: (scroll down)
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...=SPM2318123603

Another thing I like the Flambeau is that the top handle is recessed so when the handle when folded down makes the top pretty flat so that more cases can be put on top of it.
Hey Palibob! I got the modern version of that a Milwaukee 1663-20 w/ speed dial and power electronics 115-450rpm. Super awesome mixer! Love that you can dial in the speed!
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Then the OP should have gotten his money back in the extended warranty. It should have never been sold to him in the 1st place.

Im all for being honest but not when they try ti screw you over 1st.
No he should have read the agreement,ask me how I know to do this.
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