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Old 01-16-2012, 08:57 AM   #16
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We have a Kreg unit at work, and use it all the time in case building. It's definitely all that... We use the blue corrosion-resistant screws...

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Old 01-16-2012, 09:32 AM   #17
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The Blue-Kote Kreg Pocket Hole Screws are Zinc plated with some additional layers. They are not recommended for ACQ or other pressure treated lumber.

Click on 'Product Information' at this Link:
http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/0824...et-Hole-Screws

Stainless Steel Pocket Hole Screws are available from many sources but they are expensive.

e.g. http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/0812...tainless-Steel
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Old 01-16-2012, 06:59 PM   #18
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are you sure they arent epoxy coated just like deck screws only blue?
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:28 PM   #19
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Here is the page for the blue-kote screws... We don't use any pressure treated lumber at work, it's all MDF, Medex, Baltic Birch/multiply, or plywood.
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:16 AM   #20
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How good! is Blue-Kote?
The answer is that they are much much better than untreated screws but they are NOT recommended for pressure treated wood.
Below is the Mfg "Product Information" from Post #17 of this thread:

"Blue-Kote ™ Kreg Pocket Hole Screws feature a three layer high-grade anti-corrosion coating. The first layer is a zinc layer to protect the hardened steel inner screw from corrosive environments. The second layer inactivates the zinc and creates adhesion between the base coat and the Blue-Kote layer. The Blue-Kote layer is a baked ceramic which is electrically/chemically inert, so rust can’t form on the surface. Enough of all that chemical talk, the gist is that the Blue-Kote pocket hole screws are 400% more weather resistant than the “old” Sun-Seal Kreg pocket hole screws and they still have our favorite Square Drive recess for positive bit engagement. Not recommended in for ACQ or other pressure treated lumber."

Note: Kreg implies that the blue coating does NOT impinge on the #2 square drive recess, but I have found that standard #2 bits for me are hard to seat. So I use the slightly "Undersized" #2 square drive bits similar to:
http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/HX-0...ode-Driver-Bit
The undersized #2 square drive bits used to be available in a 6" length (# HX-0262). So now I use the the 4" Driver (HX-0242) with an extender from HF:
http://www.harborfreight.com/magneti...der-36555.html
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interesting since the kreg dealers have it listed as being acq compatible .. must be a mix up somewhere
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the kreg dealers have it listed as being acq compatible
I have not seen Blue-Kote screws listed as "ACQ compatible" from Kreg or from any dealers. Can you give me a source?
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it was an in store display at the local busy bee tools. which is a canadian chain of woodworking supplies
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it was an in store display at the local busy bee tools.
Thanks, I could not find it recommended for ACQ on the net.

ACQ is so much more corrosive than the pre-2004 CCA and Wolmanized treatments that I think that at least most USA suppliers are hesitant to recommend any non-stainless screws for ACQ.
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This topic has perfect timing. Rockler just sent me a $10 coupon. I think I'll pick up a Kreg mini-jig kit and a box of screws this weekend.
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I think I'll pick up a Kreg mini-jig kit
Great choice, Pocket screws are used either to build new things or fix old things. This Jig can do both although for building new things the more expensive jig's have a faster set-up time for multiple holes. I use the Mini Kreg Jig for all my repairs e.g. chair rungs, and love it.
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